LovetoCamp Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Had a recent incident I ran into as I was out herding cats for a week out at Cub Day Camp. Last fall I met a young Life Scout who was at the Roundtable getting his Eagle Project approved. He's been in Scouting since Cub Scouts and was out volunteering at Day Camp. Fast forward 9 months. I asked him how his BOR and COH went. He said it never happened. I ask why not. He went on to tell me his project involved a project at his local YMCA that was done right before his 18th birthday. He said that the lady signed off that the project was completed. Another lady that happened to also work there, but was not involved in the project or the approval, stuck her nose in. She was a mother of an Eagle Scout and wife of an Eagle Scout and was also involved in the program in another troop in the same town. She told this kid that because a door was not completed properly according to his plans, that she was calling the District Advancement Chair and informing him that it wasn't completed so he could forget about the Eagle as she was aware of his birthday. Thinking the door just slammed on him, he told his dad it was no use, took the paperwork and through it in a drawer. I asked him to bring it in, the signed project, the application, and his other paperwork. I started the appeal, called foul, citing battleexe interference. The District guy agreed and sent the appeal on. So, what do you think his chance are of getting it through all the hurdles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evmori Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 WOW! Sounds like someone had an axe to grind! How did this lady know the Scout hadn't listed the unfinished door as a plan change in the final draft? These are the kind of people you'd like to take out back! Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Bear Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 TP, Don't rush to a conclusion but tread carefully and listen to both sides of the story. There is always more going on than we would like to think in any given situation. Even after we hear the basic information, look deeper and try to discern the hidden elements. Motive is not as easily found. FB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr56 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Having been my districts Advancement Chair for several years, it sounds as if you have a reasonable case for appeal. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilLup Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Hello Trail Pounder, Why is an appeal needed? The boy has not, as you have described matters, been rejected for Eagle Scout. Did the boy's Scoutmaster refuse to give him a Scoutmaster Conference? He needs to meet with the Board of Review. The Board may decide to do an unusual thing and go into recess to obtain more information, particularly about the project. But the Board has the authority to decide that the project was completed in spite of what this one woman has to say. However, as Fuzzy Bear said, there are two sides to every story. Maybe this woman just has a bone to pick. Maybe there is something else. In case of doubt, the judgement should to go the benefit of the Scout. I would also suggest that the Scout do as thorough a job as possible of documenting his project with many photos if possible, presuming that he can still get access.(This message has been edited by NeilLup) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovetoCamp Posted September 2, 2005 Author Share Posted September 2, 2005 I don't know if appeal was the right term. His 18th birthday was last December so something out of the norm needs to occur. Anyway, it's past the Dist Chair and on the way to the Council. The benefit of the doubt went to the Scout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovetoCamp Posted September 2, 2005 Author Share Posted September 2, 2005 Hi Neil, I'll keep you posted. TP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madkins007 Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 Herding cats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovetoCamp Posted September 3, 2005 Author Share Posted September 3, 2005 150 7-10 year olds all in one location. I have this picture of trying to herd cats in my mind. A daunting task!!! But, Day Camp was a blast. I needed a week off to recover from the week I took off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovetoCamp Posted September 20, 2005 Author Share Posted September 20, 2005 BSA granted the extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGreyEagle Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Standing Ovation for BSA for showing campassion and good sense, a trait not normally attributed to them, leastwise not here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evmori Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Excellent! Way to be there for the Scout, TP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicki Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Glad common sense and compassion prevailed! Also glad the scout didn't, in a fit of disgust and understandable anger, destroy the documents. In my youth, I could see myself doing something like that. Throwing it in a drawer was a relatively mild response. Vicki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr56 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Great news, I'm happy for the fine young man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahuna Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Sounds like a good outcome. Great work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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