Banned Items on Camping Trips

[Twocubdad]

Because PopTarts' value to the program is about the same as it's nutritional value. A hot camp breakfast on a cold morning is to a box of PopTarts what a bright October day on the trail is to sleeping on the floor in your bonus room.

 

When you get down to it, the whole outdoor is a contrivance toward a greater end. All my Scout have homes with heat, plumbing and a comfortable bed. Why sleep in tents when we can stay in an RV? Or a hotel? Or home? I've listed the benefits of a patrol working together on a good meal a couple times already, and I don't suspect anyone disagrees with that.

 

Of course a big breakfast isn't always appropriate. Given the situation, canned or packaged tuna is fine and our guys know if there were a compelling reason for including PopTarts on the trail, an exception to the rule would be made. (Although I don't care where you are I can come up with a better trail menu that PopTarts.)

 

And please tell me you were making a joke when you included sheath knives among alcohol, tobacco and porn....

 

 

[Eagledad]

//I'd save banning for the big no-no items: Alcohol, tobacco, non-folding shealth knives, porn, etc...//

 

Ok, what's the big deal with sheath knives? I mean to put it in the same class as alcohol or PORN. We are still talking about boy scouts aren't we?

 

Barry

[ghermanno]

I am curious. What is the ban on sheath knives about? Are we still perpetuating the Urban legend about no sheath knives in BSA are we?

[Eagle92]

While the BSA doesn't ban sheath knives, some locals due ban sheath and fixed blade knives. Several locales in NC doe that.

 

My question is this: how do the local restaurants get around this law?

[Eagle732]

 

 

"The boy is not governed by don't, but is led by do"

 

 

[clemlaw]

>>>>>how do the local restaurants get around this law?

[Eagle732]

"I'm considering the ramifications of Banning Det cord, PETN, Semtex, Dynamite and any and all ammo"

Gunny, you take all the fun out of Scouting!

[Eagle732]

G2SS Page 40 suggests to "avoid large sheath knives". Not prohibited though.

 

 

[Eagledad]

The no sheath knife restriction is a political correctness restriction that was motivated back when big knives was popular on movies such as Rambo. Cheap big sheath knives were cheap and easy to get during their popularity then. The restriction was only intended to prevent a negative image for the BSA. Had nothing to do with past safety experiances. Sheaf kind of got caught in the middle of the "big" fear.

 

My problem with the comment was comparing it to porn, smoking and alcohol.

 

Barry

[Scoutfish]

I'm with Eagledad.

Call it a sheath knife, just not a John Holmes knife!

[acco40]

Pop Tarts Nutritional Content (per serving)

210 calories, 50 from fat

10% of RDA of Iron, B6, Thiamin, Riboflavin, Niacin & Folic Acid

 

I've seen worse.

 

We sometimes institute a "cook" rule and need to define cooking as the combination of at least two ingredients (not including water) and the application of heat.

[Eagledad]

I have no trouble with pop tarts and eggs, pop tarts and oatmeal or even pop tarts and sausages. We had pop tarts at Philmont. The objective of cooking meals is using teamwork to accomplish the task. Pop tarts by themselves do not require teamwork.

 

Barry

[Scoutfish]

I do not consider poptarts a breakfast food. I really do not consider them a food at all, but they make a great hold me over snack between breakfast and lunch, or lunch and supper. Even a late night snack.

I pack them when I go camping. Some are for me, some are for my son.( Cub Scout by the way) .

 

They work great when a kid is hungry, yet you don't want him too full and just picking at his next meal.

[Troop24]

@Eagle92: the camp we are attending this summer Camp Rainey Mountain states in their camp rules, "NO fixed-blade sheath knives allowed." (http://xrl.in/6rd5) So there are local "bans" in place throughout the scouting world on fixed blade or sheath knives.

[sailingpj]

"We sometimes institute a "cook" rule and need to define cooking as the combination of at least two ingredients (not including water) and the application of heat."

 

acco40:

Do you really have scouts so uninterested in cooking that you have to define cooking? What do they try to do? And how do you cook oatmeal if you don't count water as an ingredient? All you do there is boil some water and pour the oats in. That is only one ingredient.

 

As for banning things, none of the ships I have been in have had a ban on anything that wasn't illegal for people under 21. We had one person who was over 18 and smoked cigarettes, but the rules were the same for him as the rest of the adults, out of sight and downwind.