ONMYHONOR Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I am looking for imformation and input. I am an Eagle scout and a decorated former military officer. About 12 years ago I went to move my sister in law from Florida and was pulled over for speeding, I gave the state trooper permission to search my vehicle and he found cocaine, my sister in law said it was not hers and being as it was my vehicle I was charged and convicted of a felony. I want to be involved again with scouting and start a troop in my area, but, as we know the application process aks about having been convicted of a crime. Is it possible to be approved or are there crimes one may have looked over or is it just a flat out NO. We base the scout oath on God and we know His policy on forgiveness. What are your thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoutNut Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Talk to your CC and COR. Be honest on your application. Since it was only once, did not involve children, and if your Charter Organization approves of you in spite of this, you have a good chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisabob Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I would also point out that scouting is not a Christian (or any other religious) organization. One need not be a member of any religion to be a scout and the scout law and oath are not explicitly based on any conception of a particular deity's policy on anything. And also, that if you want to put your best foot forward in matters where there are substance issues on your record, it is probably best not to use the name of an alcoholic beverage to get people's attention. I wish you well. And ScoutNut's advice is solid. The scout unit's charter organization has considerable influence in matters pertaining to whom they will allow as volunteers in their units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortridge Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 As a felony, such a conviction would have shown up on most employers' background checks, as well. How have you dealt with this issue over the last 12 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONMYHONOR Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 I appreciate the replies, I am being honest in this quest, in my opinion scouting was originally based on two things, military survival (British training for youth entering the military) and Christian beliefs. I am aware that there is a politically correct view, but, I believe that just the words "On my honor, I will do my best. To do my duty to God and my country..." I think that I will become a SM once again, I have contacted the BSA National Headquarters and have been basically told what to do and they believe also that this is a non-issue. Thank you... the millerlite was not refering to beer or drinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emb021 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 "in my opinion scouting was originally based on two things, military survival (British training for youth entering the military) and Christian beliefs." That's your opinion. A good reading of the history of the program will show that's not so. And there is nothing 'politically correct' about that. "Duty to God" mearly means doing your religious duties, whatever they may be. The mistake many people make on both sides of the arguement is that it refers to the Christian God or the Judeo-Christian God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSScout Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Ditto the previous... So many worms, so few cans... I would note that it is also not so much what has been done, but what have you done lately? We would hope your present reputation is worthy of your desire to do good. Go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Scouter Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 No one has yet noted the way the original poster described his situation. He said that he was charged because the vehicle was his and his sister-in-law denied the cocaine was hers. While that may be correct it falls short of the "whole truth," in my opinion. If the cocaine was his, and he was convicted, why not own up to that fact now, both here and with the CO, etc.? If not, and he took the fall for her, that would seem to be relevant information, regardless of the legal record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GernBlansten Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Yeah, the dude claims he was pinched for coke possession. Tried and convicted. Tough luck I guess. Really don't care if you are Christian or war hero. You are a convict. No joy on becoming my son's SM. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axeman Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 an aside- now would be a good time to change your forum password, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John-in-KC Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Gotta agree with axeman, as well as Gern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evmori Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 I noticed the way the incident was described, too. I'd say we have a convicted felon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 If it were up to me, I would request the arrest and court documents on the case and make my decision after reading them and having some substantial discussions with the prospective volunteer and his references. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSScout Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Yep. First and only event of it's kind in his life? Umpteen years ago?That's one thing. One of several? Something else. Sister in law needs help? OMH, "Member Closed Account", are you there? Anything else to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blancmange Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 If indeed this was your only legal problem, and it was 12 years ago, you might consider applying for a pardon or expungement, depending on what is available in your state. Talk to a lawwyer who practices criminal law near you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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