frank10 Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 The SPL in a small or new troop. The SM keeps talking about the SPL being in charge, but some how he's always pushed aside when the time comes. On the other hand he's the first to get the blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubmaster Mike Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 In any pack it has to be the Advancement Chair. Putting together all those belt loops, beads, pins, etc. for cubbies is an excrutiating task. If you doubt it, look into the watering eyes of an 8-year old if everybody else in the den gets a summertime award and you forgot his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotoscout Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Without question, the hardest and most unappreciated job is being a Cub Scout Den Leader! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packsaddle Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 One of the many things I seem not to 'get' is this need for appreciation. I think successful completion of a mission should be its own source of satisfaction. This weekend, I took about 40 boys and their parents on a nature hike and, after finding snakes, insects, all kinds of plants and trees, a really big frog, and teaching them all sorts of things they never knew, the looks on those boys faces was sufficient in itself. They had a great time and they learned a few things as well. What more could anyone ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FScouter Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 That "look" in a boy's eyes is a big one. That kind of recognition is very important. BSA has studied the motivation of adult leaders. One of the top ten reasons a person volunteers is "They recieve personal recognition." One of the top ten reasons they stay involved is "They received recognition for their service." One of the top ten reasons they leave is "There was a lack of recognition." Recognition is important, beyond the look in the boy's eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packsaddle Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 I can't disagree with you regarding 'recognition'. Recognition is something that, to me, comes from within the person. Recognition, knowledge within one's own mind, of having contributed to another's life is, in fact, what I was referring to. 'Appreciation', on the other hand (the word to which the topic of the thread refers), is something that comes from without and must be given by someone else. That is the part I don't 'get'. Edited part: OK, I see that you are treating the terms synonymously while I am using them in a different sense. Sorry.(This message has been edited by packsaddle) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahuna Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 I would vote for the cooks at summer camp, OA retreats and adult leader functions. Sometimes justifiably unappreciated. Seriously, I agree that recognition is important, no matter what the job is. Nobody ever left because they got too much recognition. I also agree that you must appreciate yourself and the job you are doing, otherwise it is meaningless. Regarding recognition at the higher levels (District Award of Merit, Silver Beaver, etc), there is an old maxim, "S/he who tooteth not his/her own horn, the same shall not be tooted." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoutingagain Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I would have to say those that work above the unit level are probably unappreciated by scouts and scouters alike. Personally I have no desire to volunteer beyond the unit level mainly because it doesn't seem to me those that do get the opportunity to "see it in a boy's face" as much. That's maybe just my impression. Regarding recognition & rewards, The two best rewarding moments for me as an adult scouter have been when scouts have thanked me for helping them put an outing together. 3 years ago our unit went to Gettysburg at my suggestion and assistance and this was the first time this unit had camped outside their normal weekend campsites and summer camp. The SPL came up to me and told me it was the best trip he'd been on. Last month we returned from High Knoll, the first BSA high adventure trip this unit had been on in decades. Two scouts came up to me to thank me for helping to set up the trip. One was my son. Keep the knots, medals & certificates. All I need to know is the scouts had fun, learned something and I'll keep on keepin' on. SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmickle1027 Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Now are we talking boy leadership or adult leadership? As far as the boys, its the den chief. Hes the one that makes the first and strongest impression on the cubs. As far as the adults its the whole committee ( without whom I would be toast). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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