PACAN Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 A friend sent me these. EOY 2024 1030862 Girls 196657 Boys 834205 EOY 2023 1015027 Girls 176209 Boys 838818 Diff 15835 20448 -4613 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACAN Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 mrjohns2...what are you confused about? Growth in Girls Overall loss in Boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tron Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 2/1/2025 at 9:41 AM, PACAN said: A friend sent me these. EOY 2024 1030862 Girls 196657 Boys 834205 EOY 2023 1015027 Girls 176209 Boys 838818 Diff 15835 20448 -4613 Better than what I have seen in other places (total as low as 980k in some other places). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious_scouter Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 first overall membership increase in ____ years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yknot Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 2/1/2025 at 10:41 AM, PACAN said: A friend sent me these. EOY 2024 1030862 Girls 196657 Boys 834205 EOY 2023 1015027 Girls 176209 Boys 838818 Diff 15835 20448 -4613 I think actually these might be somewhat inflated. I'm hoping someone will give us a look at the numbers end of March/early April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjohns2 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 23 hours ago, PACAN said: mrjohns2...what are you confused about? I’m confused about the downtick in boys. Too bad there are good exit interviews. I am very confused by the membership increase. The renewal system has been an utter failure. Are they just counting everyone who renewed, and could renew, as members? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitiveScouter Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 hour ago, mrjohns2 said: I’m confused about the downtick in boys. Too bad there are good exit interviews. I am very confused by the membership increase. The renewal system has been an utter failure. Are they just counting everyone who renewed, and could renew, as members? And many are still in the grace period. They will not renew, and have not dropped off the rosters yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACAN Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 My understanding is this is the snapshot of the data at the end of each month. If a scout leaves the program but has a paid registration though 12/31/24 they are still counted. Recharter is supposed to flush out all of those registrations which can take into March by the time all the charters are processed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred8033 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 5 hours ago, mrjohns2 said: Too bad there are good exit interviews. I've heard lots of good exit interviews. The real challenge is reaching a meaningful solution such as just focus on outdoors, camping and fun. Then, let the rest happen naturally result. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yknot Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 5 hours ago, PACAN said: My understanding is this is the snapshot of the data at the end of each month. If a scout leaves the program but has a paid registration though 12/31/24 they are still counted. Recharter is supposed to flush out all of those registrations which can take into March by the time all the charters are processed. That's why the March/April figures have always been more accurate. There's a certain percentage of baked in bloat year to year. This year is going to be a little harder to figure out because I think with the change to rolling self renewals vs. prorated renewals, they will continue to remain on the books for, depending on what you've read and where, anywhere from 60 to 180 days. I'm thinking March/April, though, will be a truer picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACAN Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 I asked my friend about other numbers. Also mentioned how badly the recharter process has been. Jan 2024 893117 (down 100K from the end of 2023) April 2024 813497 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tron Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago On 2/4/2025 at 8:40 PM, yknot said: That's why the March/April figures have always been more accurate. There's a certain percentage of baked in bloat year to year. This year is going to be a little harder to figure out because I think with the change to rolling self renewals vs. prorated renewals, they will continue to remain on the books for, depending on what you've read and where, anywhere from 60 to 180 days. I'm thinking March/April, though, will be a truer picture. Statistically speaking the month picked does not matter as long as the long term trend is tracked on the same date. If SA has always used 12/31 as the date for the data point, continuing to use it will show the long term trend; we can't let ourselves get befuddled in the month-to-month membership numbers. We might not get a clear picture of the membership direction until we have 36 months under this new membership renewal system. 12/31/2027 might be the day that we really know what is going on year-over-year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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