End of 2024 membership numbers

[PACAN]

A friend sent me these.   

 

EOY 2024    1030862    Girls 196657  Boys  834205

EOY 2023     1015027     Girls 176209  Boys  838818

Diff                   15835                 20448               -4613

 

 

[PACAN]

mrjohns2...what are you confused about?

 

Growth in Girls

Overall loss in Boys

[Tron]

On 2/1/2025 at 9:41 AM, PACAN said:

A friend sent me these.   

 

EOY 2024    1030862    Girls 196657  Boys  834205

EOY 2023     1015027     Girls 176209  Boys  838818

Diff                   15835                 20448               -4613

 

 

Better than what I have seen in other places (total as low as 980k in some other places). 

[curious_scouter]

first overall membership increase in ____ years?

[yknot]

On 2/1/2025 at 10:41 AM, PACAN said:

A friend sent me these.   

 

EOY 2024    1030862    Girls 196657  Boys  834205

EOY 2023     1015027     Girls 176209  Boys  838818

Diff                   15835                 20448               -4613

 

 

I think actually these might be somewhat inflated.  I'm hoping someone will give us a look at the numbers end of March/early April. 

[mrjohns2]

23 hours ago, PACAN said:

mrjohns2...what are you confused about?

I’m confused about the downtick in boys. Too bad there are good exit interviews. 
 

I am very confused by the membership increase. The renewal system has been an utter failure. Are they just counting everyone who renewed, and could renew, as members? 

[InquisitiveScouter]

1 hour ago, mrjohns2 said:

I’m confused about the downtick in boys. Too bad there are good exit interviews. 
 

I am very confused by the membership increase. The renewal system has been an utter failure. Are they just counting everyone who renewed, and could renew, as members? 

And many are still in the grace period.  They will not renew, and have not dropped off the rosters yet.

[PACAN]

My understanding is this is the snapshot of the data at the end of each month.   If a scout leaves the program but has a paid registration though 12/31/24 they are still counted.  Recharter is supposed to flush out all of those registrations which can take into March by the time all the charters are processed.

 

[fred8033]

5 hours ago, mrjohns2 said:

Too bad there are good exit interviews.

I've heard lots of good exit interviews.  The real challenge is reaching a meaningful solution such as just focus on outdoors, camping and fun.  Then, let the rest happen naturally result.

[yknot]

5 hours ago, PACAN said:

My understanding is this is the snapshot of the data at the end of each month.   If a scout leaves the program but has a paid registration though 12/31/24 they are still counted.  Recharter is supposed to flush out all of those registrations which can take into March by the time all the charters are processed.

 

That's why the March/April figures have always been more accurate. There's a certain percentage of baked in bloat year to year. This year is going to be a little harder to figure out because I think with the change to rolling self renewals vs. prorated renewals, they will continue to remain on the books for, depending on what you've read and where, anywhere from 60 to 180 days. I'm thinking March/April, though, will be a truer picture. 

[PACAN]

I asked my friend about other numbers.    Also mentioned how badly the recharter process has been.

Jan 2024   893117  (down 100K from the end of 2023) 

April 2024  813497