Determining where a unit "exists" and how it is supported

[HashTagScouts]

35 minutes ago, InquisitiveScouter said:

LOL, thought you were talking about council/district events.  Training is another matter...

(Even so, training is not a unit mandated thing... those are mandates on individuals.)

Disagree

Sure, but if a PLC decides they do not wish to participate in these events, you should support their decision.  For example, our Scouts choose not to go to many of these events because they are tired of WINNING!!  For most competitions, it isn't even close.  It just isn't fun for them to whoop everyone's behind.  So, they only attend these things about once every three years.  And we adults are fine with that. (If those events do not coincide with a unit event, we do encourage our Scouts to run stations or judge events... which they often do.)

We have the capability and experience to plan and execute our own program, thank you.  Most council/district events are tailored for units with little time or experience.  They need the program support.  We do not.

And, for the record, we would operate fine without any council overhead here.  We can even (and have) run our own summer camp.

That is up to them...  Perhaps they see those events as more value-added to their program than your council events.  To each his own. 

I side with the units on that one.

Also factor in impact to unit planning. If your council is different than ours, God bless. I can look at our council calendar today for August-December, and there are no dates for camporee listed. I can see OA weekend dates and NYLT weekend dates. Our unit is not unlike many around us, that planning meeting with PLC will take place before the end of July. If we don't have event dates to consider, then those events are not going to be considered. We will give deflection to not plan our weekend for one of the months there is an OA weekend for those who wish to attend that, but we aren't going to plan around both months. 

[Eagle94-A1]

4 hours ago, Tron said:

You are correct, and it's funny how this unit has higher costs because they are going out of council. By refusing to participate in the council of registry they have become a cash cow for the neighboring council. Man it sure is thrifty when that unit pays all those out-of-council fees in neighboring councils. 

Depends. Are the units getting value from the out of council fees? If paying an extra $25-$35 gives the Scouts a better experience, yes it is worth it.  I can tell you I have been to some camps that until major improvements in staffing occur, we will not go there. 

[Eagle94-A1]

2 minutes ago, HashTagScouts said:

Also factor in impact to unit planning. If your council is different than ours, God bless. I can look at our council calendar today for August-December, and there are no dates for camporee listed. I can see OA weekend dates and NYLT weekend dates. Our unit is not unlike many around us, that planning meeting with PLC will take place before the end of July. If we don't have event dates to consider, then those events are not going to be considered. We will give deflection to not plan our weekend for one of the months there is an OA weekend for those who wish to attend that, but we aren't going to plan around both months. 

Well, at least your council isn't cancelling events with little to no forewarning. 3 events have been canceled so far this year.