NOVA Question

[derksmit]

My child recently went from being a lone cub to a Scout troop.  We had a lot of fun doing a few of the NOVA projects as a cub.  My question is, if a child wants to continue to do NOVA projects and maybe even work towards a supernova, do they have to start from scratch or is the NOVA program contiguous across cubs/BSA?

So specifically,

1) When they earn the first scout NOVA would they get the BSA patch for that or keep adding pins to their light blue border cub patch?

2) Implicit in #1 is, is it OK to wear their cub nova patch/pins as a temporary patch on their Scout uniform? or they have to earn it over again?

3) If they go for a supernova it looks like there are a number of 'earn X NOVA awards' requirements.  Do those count the ones they earned as cubs or they have to be all from Scouts?

Thanks in advance for any insights from those familiar with the program.

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[InquisitiveScouter]

16 hours ago, derksmit said:

My child recently went from being a lone cub to a Scout troop.  We had a lot of fun doing a few of the NOVA projects as a cub.  My question is, if a child wants to continue to do NOVA projects and maybe even work towards a supernova, do they have to start from scratch or is the NOVA program contiguous across cubs/BSA?

So specifically,

1) When they earn the first scout NOVA would they get the BSA patch for that or keep adding pins to their light blue border cub patch?

2) Implicit in #1 is, is it OK to wear their cub nova patch/pins as a temporary patch on their Scout uniform? or they have to earn it over again?

3) If they go for a supernova it looks like there are a number of 'earn X NOVA awards' requirements.  Do those count the ones they earned as cubs or they have to be all from Scouts?

Thanks in advance for any insights from those familiar with the program.

@derksmit, welcome!!

1.  They "start over."  A Scout gets a Scout-level patch (No. 618757) for first Scout-level Nova.  Then the same Nova Pi pins for subsequent awards.  The Cub Scout patch (No. 613042) is not awarded to Scouts.

2.  No.  The only awards earned as a Cub Scout that carry over onto Scout uniform are Arrow of Light and Religious Award.

3.  No.  Cub Scout Nova's only count for Cub Scout Supernova.  Scout Nova's only count for Scout Supernova.  Same rule for Venturing.

Enjoy!

P.S.  There are now Supernova pins for uniform, when a Scout earns a Supernova Award Medal.

see page 72.

https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/33066/33066_Universal_and_Nonunit_Insignia_WEB.pdf

 

Edited September 27, 2023 by InquisitiveScouter

[derksmit]

@InquisitiveScouter

Thanks for the reply confirming what was my suspicion.  I wanted to start going over the requirements and things with my scout but its hard when I'm not sure that I fully grasped it!

 

Edited September 27, 2023 by derksmit

[Tron]

On 9/27/2023 at 12:29 PM, InquisitiveScouter said:

@derksmit, welcome!!

1.  They "start over."  A Scout gets a Scout-level patch (No. 618757) for first Scout-level Nova.  Then the same Nova Pi pins for subsequent awards.  The Cub Scout patch (No. 613042) is not awarded to Scouts.

2.  No.  The only awards earned as a Cub Scout that carry over onto Scout uniform are Arrow of Light and Religious Award.

3.  No.  Cub Scout Nova's only count for Cub Scout Supernova.  Scout Nova's only count for Scout Supernova.  Same rule for Venturing.

Enjoy!

P.S.  There are now Supernova pins for uniform, when a Scout earns a Supernova Award Medal.

see page 72.

https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/33066/33066_Universal_and_Nonunit_Insignia_WEB.pdf

 

Messenger of peace carries over. 

There is also debate about recruiter patch crossing over. The rules state that the badge can be earned twice, they don't say that the badge has to be earned twice.