DeaconLance Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 I am surprised the facilities use agreement was even contemplated. Catholic Mutual advised dioceses to stick to charter agreements or do not allow any use at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred8033 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 On 10/4/2024 at 5:37 PM, DeaconLance said: I am surprised the facilities use agreement was even contemplated. Catholic Mutual advised dioceses to stick to charter agreements or do not allow any use at all. Why? Is it that parents see meetings at the church and assume church oversight? The insurance company is saying be responsible or don't do it at all. Simply meeting at the church infers oversight. Liability is not waived by a legal document between the church and BSA because the parents are not part of the agreement. This feels like a long-evolving legal interpretation. Effectively, if you own something, you are responsible. The church owns the building, so the church has responsibility to protect those using the building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeptic Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 (edited) Once again, we choose to accept passing off personal responsibility onto "someone or something". Corporations or PAC's are somehow people, so they can do what individuals can; so says the court. Until somehow we have the courage to FIX the legal jungle and not allow foolish and far fetched ideas or definitions to be accepted, we will continue to have these ongoing messes. Edited October 7 by skeptic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACAN Posted October 11 Author Share Posted October 11 I'm not an expert in the CM policies but it would seem that having ANY youth group (School, sports, teen social groups) within the individual parishes are subject to YP and would cause the liability rates to go up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACAN Posted Tuesday at 03:10 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 03:10 PM GSA turn…I just saw the Archbishop of Cincinnati has dropped them from the diocese. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NealOnWheels Posted Tuesday at 05:02 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:02 PM 1 hour ago, PACAN said: GSA turn…I just saw the Archbishop of Cincinnati has dropped them from the diocese. Yes - but appears to be due to views on sexuality - not due to youth protection liability issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagledad Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 15 hours ago, NealOnWheels said: Yes - but appears to be due to views on sexuality - not due to youth protection liability issues. Transgenderism is a future liability issue that was discussed on this forum a few years ago. One example of Nationals membership changes that are ironically making scouting more exclusive. Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuctTape Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 2 hours ago, Eagledad said: Transgenderism is a future liability issue that was discussed on this forum a few years ago. One example of Nationals membership changes that are ironically making scouting more exclusive. Barry I don't follow. Can you elaborate? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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