Catholics turn

[DeaconLance]

I am surprised the facilities use agreement was even contemplated.  Catholic Mutual advised dioceses to stick to charter agreements or do not allow any use at all.

[fred8033]

On 10/4/2024 at 5:37 PM, DeaconLance said:

I am surprised the facilities use agreement was even contemplated.  Catholic Mutual advised dioceses to stick to charter agreements or do not allow any use at all.

Why?  

Is it that parents see meetings at the church and assume church oversight?  The insurance company is saying be responsible or don't do it at all.  Simply meeting at the church infers oversight.  Liability is not waived by a legal document between the church and BSA because the parents are not part of the agreement. 

This feels like a long-evolving legal interpretation.  Effectively, if you own something, you are responsible.  The church owns the building, so the church has responsibility to protect those using the building.  

[skeptic]

Once again, we choose to accept passing off personal responsibility onto "someone or something".  Corporations or PAC's are somehow people, so they can do what individuals can; so says the court.  Until somehow we have the courage to FIX the legal jungle and not allow foolish and far fetched ideas or definitions to be accepted, we will continue to have these ongoing messes.

Edited October 7 by skeptic

[PACAN]

I'm not an expert in the CM policies but it would seem that having ANY youth group (School, sports, teen social groups) within the individual parishes are subject to YP and would cause the liability rates to go up.