Perhaps a dumb question

[IanMarshall65]

Can and ASM also hold a committee position. I thought it was not possible to hold a dual role but am questioning myself

[mrjohns2]

No. One is the program side (SM/ASM) and the bureaucracy side (committee).

[malraux]

By rule, no. In practice, especially for small units, the lines can get blurry.

[MikeS72]

The only person who can hold more than one REGISTERED position in a unit is the COR who can also serve as committee chair.

SM/ASM cannot hold any other REGISTERED position.  Many people consider things like secretary, treasurer, advancement chair to be registered positions -- they are not, they are functional roles.  When chartering a committee has to have a Committee Chair and at least 21 Committee Members; what roles those committee members take on is of no concern outside the unit.  I know of several ASMs who also handle advancement for their units as that is a functional role, not a registered position.

[qwazse]

Typo (for anyone who reads this in the future)

On 8/30/2022 at 9:31 PM, MikeS72 said:

… a committee has to have a Committee Chair and at least 21 Committee Members; …

Should be “At least 2 committe members”

[MikeS72]

1 hour ago, qwazse said:

Typo (for anyone who reads this in the future)

Should be “At least 2 committe members”

Proof read, proof read, and then proof read again!!!  😄

[qwazse]

2 hours ago, MikeS72 said:

Proof read, proof read, and then proof read again!!!  😄

I’m just thinking of he poor scouter who takes what we say as gospel and now has MCs in spades!

[IanMarshall65]

Thanks for all the responses 

Its as I thought 

[Jmatt0613]

I feel like this is something important to note in this conversation. In the Troop Committee Guidebook, it states in chapter 8: "The Scoutmaster (or assistant Scoutmaster) is not a member of the troop committee and has no vote." (Chapter 8, page 35) This book is old but it doesn't have a newer version. 

Troop Committee Guidebook: http://www.commissioner-bsa.org/kit/Troop Committee Guidebook 34505.pdf or just search 'bsa committee guidebook'

[scoutldr]

Do they no longer teach this in position-specific training?

[North Bay Scouter]

On 8/30/2022 at 5:21 PM, mrjohns2 said:

No. One is the program side (SM/ASM) and the bureaucracy side (committee).

Or in another terminology, "Line vs. Staff".

Those that work with youth are "Line".

Those that support those that work with youth are "Staff".  

[awanatech]

On 9/13/2022 at 10:35 PM, Jmatt0613 said:

I feel like this is something important to note in this conversation. In the Troop Committee Guidebook, it states in chapter 8: "The Scoutmaster (or assistant Scoutmaster) is not a member of the troop committee and has no vote." (Chapter 8, page 35) This book is old but it doesn't have a newer version. 

Troop Committee Guidebook: http://www.commissioner-bsa.org/kit/Troop Committee Guidebook 34505.pdf or just search 'bsa committee guidebook'

This is correct.