5thGenTexan Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 The new Guide to Advancement 2021 has a line... Adventures required for the Arrow of Light rank must wait until the Webelos rank has been earned. However, the World Conservation Award for Webelos / AOL (same requirements for both) has a Building a Better World as a requirement. Does this mean Webelos can not ear the World Conservation Award with the new rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle94-A1 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) Apparently yes, Webelos 1s can no longer earn it due to the new rule. Don't get me started on this nonsense. Webelos is suppose to be a transition period, getting Cub Scouts ready for Scouts BSA. In Scouts BSA, you can advance to Star and Life only using Eagle required MBs. Why can't Webelos? Also if you want to prepare them for Scouts BSA, the sooner the better. Waiting until they are in 5th grade for them to earn Scouting Adventure is too late. Edited July 14, 2021 by Eagle94-A1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5thGenTexan Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 My DE thinks I should just proceed as normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle94-A1 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Will Scoutbook and/or Internet Advancement allow it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CynicalScouter Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, Eagle94-A1 said: Will Scoutbook and/or Internet Advancement allow it? Right that will be the key: you won’t be able to enter into SB if it violates Guide to Advancement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle94-A1 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 And therefore won't be able to record it. Not that SCOUTBOOK / Internet advancement is accurste. Reviewing my records today, and of course 30+ years are missing. Heck it is still not showing i am an Eagle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5thGenTexan Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Eagle94-A1 said: Will Scoutbook and/or Internet Advancement allow it? Yesterday it did. I was able to mark a requirement complete for a Webelos on Building a Better World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5thGenTexan Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, CynicalScouter said: Right that will be the key: you won’t be able to enter into SB if it violates Guide to Advancement You are assuming the right hand knows what the left hand is doing. Edited July 15, 2021 by 5thGenTexan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle94-A1 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 9 hours ago, 5thGenTexan said: You are assuming the right hand knows what the left hand is doing. Why should I be surprised. Risk Management folks STILL are lying about "Dodgeball has never been an approved BSA activity," even after I cited multiple references to Dodgeball in BSA literature dating to 1929 AND screen captured a SCOUTING.ORG webpage showing it is an approved game even after the ban (they quickly took it down). Why do I feel like I am in 1984? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitiveScouter Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 43 minutes ago, Eagle94-A1 said: Why do I feel like I am in 1984? Because you are, my friend....you are 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitiveScouter Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 12 hours ago, Eagle94-A1 said: And therefore won't be able to record it. Not that SCOUTBOOK / Internet advancement is accurste. Reviewing my records today, and of course 30+ years are missing. Heck it is still not showing i am an Eagle. SB does not reflect everything in ScoutNET that they have on you...call your registrar and ask for your record. One problem also was, in the past, the lack of record transfers when moving from council to council. Lots of stuff was lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle94-A1 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, InquisitiveScouter said: SB does not reflect everything in ScoutNET that they have on you...call your registrar and ask for your record. One problem also was, in the past, the lack of record transfers when moving from council to council. Lots of stuff was lost. Don't I know it. I was promised that the situation would be solved back in 1998 with SCOUTNET 2000. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5thGenTexan Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 I spent 30 minutes this morning speaking with our VERY nice and VERY informed Council Advancement Chair. I am backed up at the Council level to proceed with my plan to work on the World Conservation Award with our Webelos and AOL Scouts. We are not taking anything away from requirements, we are not doing anything dangerous, and we are helping Scouts earn an extra award beyond that just for rank advancement, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitiveScouter Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 For your easy reference... https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/33088.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjohns2 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 13 hours ago, InquisitiveScouter said: For your easy reference... They changed the cover in the last week! Someone pointed out in their fancy graphic they had the old diamond Webelos badge. Looks like they deleted that and added one done in Word! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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