John-in-KC Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 BSA will no longer publish the Requirements book. It’s gone totally online. https://www.scouting.org/programs/scouts-bsa/advancement-and-awards/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CynicalScouter Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, John-in-KC said: BSA will no longer publish the Requirements book. It’s gone totally online. https://www.scouting.org/programs/scouts-bsa/advancement-and-awards/ This was announced at the National meeting last year. Long term ALL BSA publications will be online/print on demand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashmaster Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 That is how it has been for Sea Scouting for a while. It works out pretty well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred8033 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 hours ago, John-in-KC said: BSA will no longer publish the Requirements book. It’s gone totally online. https://www.scouting.org/programs/scouts-bsa/advancement-and-awards/ I wish we had a heart emoji here. It's how it should be. A scout is thrifty. We just don't need printed versions every year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjohns2 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, fred8033 said: I wish we had a heart emoji here. It's how it should be. A scout is thrifty. We just don't need printed versions every year. There are a number of Scouters who give me the stick eye with I reference something like this on my phone. With all of this moving electronically, we need to change to culture to not be so turned off by phones, tablets, laptops at meetings/campouts/outings. Also, I have the 2019 and 2020 Kindle editions of the requirements. 2021 is not out. The BSA is "committed" to moving these to electronic resources. They keep using that word. I don't think it means what they think it means. Edited January 16, 2021 by mrjohns2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAHAWK Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 "committed" = thinking about it for some undetermined time in the future; a possibility E.g. putting insignia and uniform rules on line - BSA "committed" to that some years ago. I was curious back thenwhen I was teaching the "Uniforming" course at more than one "University fo Scouting." I gave up waiting after eleven years had passed. I even volunteered several professional writers to help, an offer not acknowledged in any way. 😐 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwazse Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 My only wish is that all requirements were in one plain-old-ascii file. Same thing for annual reports. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberSchiff Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, fred8033 said: I wish we had a heart emoji here. It's how it should be. A scout is thrifty. We just don't need printed versions every year. ❤️ Copy and paste as you like. Now if I could just upload it into forum directory.... Edited January 16, 2021 by RememberSchiff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeptic Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 If you think seriously about it, this is long overdue. Not only saved money and resources, but you can find the section you need and print it and not have to buy a book seldom used for other than on occasion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjohns2 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, skeptic said: Not only saved money and resources, but you can find the section you need and print it and not have to buy a book seldom used for other than on occasion. It will be great if they provide one large pdf guide. The Kindle edition was the same cost, and based on each year (not auto updated). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACAN Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Wonder how many millions will be saved and returned to the scouts. The Requirements Book ($5) is really a book the scout, leader, parent can sit down and read through to see everything they can earn. Unless this is available as a single file, scouts need to click on each individual badge or award to see the requirements and peak their interest. A number of MBCs and leaders use the book all the time as a reference out in summer camp or just regular meetings instead of flipping through their phones if they even have connection. Might as well just put the handbook and filled in worksheets on the site too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CynicalScouter Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 51 minutes ago, PACAN said: Wonder how many millions will be saved and returned to the scouts. I think that folks need to realize three things: 1) Fees are not going down. Nothing is getting "returned to scouts". 2) Layoffs have already hit national and numerous councils and they are not going to stop. Part of the reason for switching to all online print-on-demand is to adjust to a permanent loss in BSA supply chain workers. 3) The introduction of these efforts is to adjust expenditures to the new reality of income/revenue. Not to reduce revenue sources/requests. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjohns2 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, CynicalScouter said: 3) The introduction of these efforts is to adjust expenditures to the new reality of income/revenue. Not to reduce revenue sources/requests. It is interesting that some of these items, even if they seemed expensive, must not have been "self sustaining" meaning that they were selling these at a loss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACAN Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 @CynicalScouter Obviously (or maybe not) my comment was facetious. I've never seen the BSA return anything to the customer...seen many comments where even getting a $5 refund for a cancelled event was a major production I did like your #3 "adjusting expenditures to the new reality of income/revenue". I think a lot of councils are still in a fantasy world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred8033 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 On 1/16/2021 at 11:03 AM, qwazse said: My only wish is that all requirements were in one plain-old-ascii file. Same thing for annual reports. I prefer PDF documents as it effectively looks and feels like a book. Professional. Illustrations. Cover page. Index. Table of contents. Cross references. Searchable. Most importantly, printable into a real document. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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