Major Change in Chartered Organization Relationship

[carebear3895]

1 hour ago, PACAN said:

When you go to print out the Charter Partner Agreement in Internet Recharter the new form comes up. 

 

I guess it is imminent 

I REALLY WISH THEY WOULD TELL US THESE THINGS

[MattR]

2 hours ago, carebear3895 said:

I REALLY WISH THEY WOULD TELL US THESE THINGS

That person was likely laid off a week ago. Me thinks there's a lot more change coming.

[PACAN]

@carebear3895   Why would this form be any different than any other item from national?  😅

[John-in-KC]

On 12/4/2020 at 10:56 AM, gpurlee said:

 We are clearly heading into a tipping point, probably more rapidly than most of us would have anticipated. This is a route to attempt to deal with the recommendations by conference attorneys that churches distance themselves from Boy Scouting. The irony here is that the program is probably the safest it has been in the past fifty years. 

Safe for the youth is minimal risk for harrassment or assault.   Safe for the Chartered Partner is **no** risk of losing money or assets by hosting an activity.  That’s all the more true when you think of local non profits, which tend to have few $$$ reserves. 

[gpurlee]

The United Methodist Scouting ministries is doing an online presentation this Friday evening to further discuss the new chartered organization options for 2021. These are the ones that I mentioned at the beginning of this thread. 

It is my understanding that although this is focused on United Methodist Scouting, it is open to any interested Scouter. More information can be found at:

https://methodistscouter.org/monthly-events/

Edited December 10, 2020 by gpurlee

[CynicalScouter]

Nevermind, question answered here.

Edited December 10, 2020 by CynicalScouter

[CynicalScouter]

Nevermind, I found proof

The new plan is that the COUNCIL OWNS THE UNITS.

 

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URGENT MESSAGE FOR METHODIST BSA CHARTERS

There are a couple of chartering options with BSA. The first is an updated version of the current agreement. The church owns the ministry. They are still protected by the insurance through the BSA. It is explicitly spelled out.

The second addresses the concerns of some annual conference chancellors. The unit is chartered to the BSA local council. The unit then signs a facilities use agreement with the church. The council owns the unit. We support by offering a meeting place.

Councils have copies of the two agreements.

 

 

Edited December 10, 2020 by CynicalScouter

[David CO]

38 minutes ago, CynicalScouter said:

Nevermind, I found proofThe new plan is that the COUNCIL OWNS THE UNITS.

So the council owns the units.  Then the council must appoint the COR's.  This means the execs control the voting members of the council.  

[mrjohns2]

9 minutes ago, David CO said:

Then the council must appoint the COR's.

With no announcements, there is no must. Maybe the COR is appointed by the committee? We won't know until the info is released. 

[CynicalScouter]

10 minutes ago, David CO said:

This means the execs control the voting members of the council.  

At least some, yes. There will be the option for units to be chartered under the traditional model but there will be some number of units where the CO = Council, therefore the Council/Scout Exec will select the COR.

So, the execs will control SOME voting members.

[PACAN]

If the council owns the unit, then they are the COR aren't they?

[mrjohns2]

2 minutes ago, PACAN said:

If the council owns the unit, then they are the COR aren't they?

It is a new system, so we don't know yet. Maybe the will have a Council Organization Representative or a Chartered Unit Representative. We just don't know until it is rolled out. 

Edited December 10, 2020 by mrjohns2

[Dixit]

Does this look like the new agreement for Council based units?  It's linked right on https://www.scouting.org/resources/forms/

• Annual Council Unit Registration Agreement

Right above it is (which also looks new?)

• Short Form Facility Use Agreement

Edited December 11, 2020 by Dixit
typo and new link

[mrjohns2]

1 hour ago, Dixit said:

Does this look like the new agreement for Council based units?

Yep, that is it.

[RememberSchiff]

1 hour ago, Dixit said:

Right above it is (which also looks new?)

• Short Form Facility Use Agreement

??? Seems backwards, the renter specifies the terms of renting his/her facility.