permanent BSA job cuts

[David CO]

18 minutes ago, Sentinel947 said:

This week it was announced that half the furloughed members of my team would return, the other half would be laid off.  I'm glad I didn't have to deal with that stress

 

I think we sometimes forget that layoffs can also be stressful on the employees who remain.  

[PACAN]

My understanding is that the National Directors of Sea Scouts, Ventures and STEM were axed.  So what does that tell us about the future of these programs?

[John-in-KC]

@RichardB  Mr Bourleon, what’s ground truth, please?

[RichardB]

@John-in-KC there was a reduction in the National Council Staff by 110 positions yesterday.    These are trying times, I have no desire nor inclination to join the debate or speculation here.   Good people, who care about our country, our youth and the program of the BSA are no longer employed.   Keep them and Scouting in your thoughts and prayers.    RichardB

[scoutldr]

The year 2020 will go down in history as having been devastating for a number of reasons.  To those who lost their jobs, I wish them well.  My own Scout sons, now grown with young children (9, 5 and 5) of their own are wondering every day if the axe will fall and if my Grandkids will ever have a "normal" school career.  One works in the restaurant industry and the other for a city Police Dept.  I wonder when the COVID axe will fall on my high risk body, which I feel is inevitable in spite of best efforts to avoid it.  Nobody deserves this, any of it.  God bless us, everyone.

[PACAN]

Sorry about those folks affected but I'm not sure any of us should be surprised by this.   By the numbers of lost just youth membership (of about 1/3)  and at $60 pp that is around $30M+ in lost revenue paid directly to National.    

We have also seen large scale staff reductions at the council levels and a few mergers folks have listed on this forum. 

[David CO]

52 minutes ago, PACAN said:

I'm not sure any of us should be surprised by this. 

I'm just surprised this didn't happen earlier.  You are absolutely right.  It was not unexpected.  Membership is dropping.  BSA is in bankruptcy.  What else would we expect to happen?  Bankruptcy has consequences. 

 

Edited August 2, 2020 by David CO

[CynicalScouter]

On 8/1/2020 at 9:25 AM, Midwest Scouter said:

RE: Permanent BSA Job Cuts.

I'd better start hearing about major cuts at the very top or this will be my wife's and my last year with Scouts BSA.  The amount of money certain people make and the large payout on pensions of this organization is through the roof.  There is no reason on earth some of these people should be making the amount of money they are making when working for a volunteer organization. Especially, one that has a paying membership on a major decline.

So, I decided to take a look at this. We don't have National's IRS 990 forms for 2019 year; they have until May 15, but almost every group I've ever known always files for the automatic 6-month extension, so I don't think anything of it. We do have for 2018, which were filed in October 2019 (again, 6 month automatic extension).

IRS Form 990 (Tax Year 2018) Part VII Compensation of Officers, Directors, Trustees, Key Employees, Highest Compensated Employees, and Independent Contractors
(A) Name and Title	(D) Reportable compensation from the organization (W-2/1099-MISC).	(F) Estimated amount of other compensation from the organization and related organizations	(D) + (F)
TOP 16 EXECUTIVES TOTAL	5,766,148	3,466,893	9,233,041
Michael B Surbaugh Chief Scout Executive and President	793,824	206,878	1,000,702
Michael A Ashline Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer	445,111	141,575	586,686
P McGowan General Counsel and Secretary	394,368	118,673	513,041
John Green Group Director - Outdoor Adventures	471,671	646,612	1,118,283
Mark Logemann ACSE, National Dir Support Services	313,249	295,226	608,475
Al Lambert ACSE, Dir Outdoor Adventures	349,433	232,038	581,471
Patrick Sterrett ACSE, Nall Dir Field Service	387,012	177,445	564,457
Brad Farmer ACSE, Development	349,140	175,450	524,590
Todd McGregor Group Director - Summit	231,916	200,703	432,619
Mark Winkelman Group Director - Supply	280,342	145,828	426,170
Vijay Challa Group Director - Chief Information Officer	257,406	56,698	314,104
Ron Oats Regional Director	372,417	211,699	584,116
Frederick Wallace Regional Director	298,993	283,028	582,021
Lisa Young Group Director - Human Resources	264,054	225,244	489,298
John Mosby Regional Director	292,314	193,521	485,835
Steve Medlicott Group Director - Marketing	264,898	156,275	421,173

 

 

 

Edited August 4, 2020 by CynicalScouter