jcprofit17 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 My son is completing his Eagle Scout Rank Application and we had a question about what date to put here: Date joined Scouts BSA? Is this the date that he earned the Scout Rank, the day he earned Arrow of Light, or neither? Please advise. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberSchiff Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 @jcprofit17 on behalf of moderators, welcome to scouter.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcprofit17 Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameson76 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) Don't overthink that question. We advise to put the crossover date, or first meeting date. It can be a bit fuzzy with applications, processing, etc. Never had an issue Edited March 11, 2020 by Jameson76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValleyBoy Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 It should be the date that he joined the Troop. As posted above never had an issue with this date. The best person to ask is your local councils registrar since they are the one that checked all the information on the Eagle application before and Eagle Board can be scheduled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcprofit17 Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 Thank you for the information! One other question regarding the application... Does the letter of reflection have to be completed before my son gets his application signed by his Scoutmaster and Committee leader? Or does he have to have this ready and available for his Eagle Scout Board of Review? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameson76 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, jcprofit17 said: Thank you for the information! One other question regarding the application... Does the letter of reflection have to be completed before my son gets his application signed by his Scoutmaster and Committee leader? Or does he have to have this ready and available for his Eagle Scout Board of Review? No He only needs to provide the information at the time of the application. Also on the letters for reference they only need to be asked for, but it is not a required. From the Guide to Advancement - A board of review must not be denied or postponed due to unresponsive references. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWCub Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Does your son or unit use Scoutbook? The Eagle Rank Application is mostly filled out there for you. Dates included. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwazse Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, jcprofit17 said: Thank you for the information! One other question regarding the application... Does the letter of reflection have to be completed before my son gets his application signed by his Scoutmaster and Committee leader? Or does he have to have this ready and available for his Eagle Scout Board of Review? I've had a lot of scouts asking me about the letter of reflection recently. The SM or CC do not need to see it. For our council it goes in with the application and is not graded, they just check that it's done. It should be the scouts own words, and I've encouraged scouts to keep it to one page. (Or two, double-spaced.) It is for use in "preparation for your board of review". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcprofit17 Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 Thank you for the information. My son plans on having his Scoutmaster and Committee Chair sign his application this week, but hasn't written his letter of reflection yet. I am glad to hear that it is not required just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeptic Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Before I sign the actual application I do review it for being complete. As part of that I read the "reflection", partly as consistent with my final conference before the board. Personally, I on occasion suggest a rewrite so that it is a bit clearer and to perhaps proofed for major grammar or spelling issues. If they choose to not, that is their option. But, as I explain, this reflects on them as well, and so they should attempt to do it well. Just my approach. The main thing is that it is "their" thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcprofit17 Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 My son will definitely be writing it, but was asking whether it had to be done at the time he gets the signatures from his troop leaders. Some say no, you say yes, so I'm wondering if it a troop specific? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelpfulTracks Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 As for dates ask the council for a Person Listing for your Scout. It will list dates for everything you need on an application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle94-A1 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Lots of good advice. A few other thoughts. 1. Contact the council to get a transcript of their advancement records. I have seen Scouts get delayed because council records were messed up. 2. MAKE COPIES OF EVERYTHING! I have had a Scout "never turn in the paperwork." when he had a photo of him turning in the paperwork. Another time a Scout's BOR signed application was "never turned in," when the paperwork for the other 2 EBORs that night were received and processed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NealOnWheels Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 When you say "letter of reflection" do you mean "statement of your ambitions and life purpose"? If so then yes it is required before the Scoutmaster and Committee Chair sign. It is part of Requirement #6. By signing the Scoutmaster and Committee Chair are certifying that requirements 1 - 6 are complete. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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