mrkstvns Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Are any merit badges really hard? Flipping through my handy dandy "Requirements 2019" book, it sure doesn't appear that way to me, but scouts tell me otherwise. I asked my son if any of them were hard, and he told me no, but some took a long time because they required logs to be kept over time. He also told me that a couple of them were challenging just because he couldn't find a local counselor to help him. There've been a couple of articles about this subject in "Scouting" magazine. An interview with two scouts who'd earned every merit badge had some agreements and some disparities over which were really the 10 "hardest" merit badges. One scout said his hardest was "Scuba", the other picked "Radio". I can kind of see "Scuba" being a hard merit badge because a scout needs to complete an open water certification. I'm surprised that neither scout picked "Bugling", which is perennially at the bottom of lists of most-earned merit badges. It's kind of hard because it requires learning quite a few esoteric bugling calls that few scouts have ever heard before. So what do y'all think? Which merit badges are the hardest to earn? Are there really any requirements that are tough for a scout to master? Related Link:https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2019/10/07/which-merit-badges-are-the-toughest-we-asked-two-brothers-who-earned-them-all/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuctTape Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 my first thought from your title was "bugling". For a trumpet (or any brass instrument) player it might not be challenging. But for someone who play no instrument or a string instrument it can be very challenging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltface Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Another vote for Bugling, especially if the counselor requires the calls to be played precisely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkstvns Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 hours ago, DuctTape said: my first thought from your title was "bugling". For a trumpet (or any brass instrument) player it might not be challenging. But for someone who play no instrument or a string instrument it can be very challenging. My son played trumpet, but he still never earned Bugling MB. After all, how many people have ever heard a bugler call "Swimming" ? The number, worldwide, is probably not too terribly much higher than 0... The only 2 calls I've every heard a Boy Scout sound on a bugle are "Taps" and "Reveille". Of course, your mileage may vary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackdaws Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I think the difficulty for some badges is based on where you live. For us, the Snow Sports badge it would be rather hard to achieve here in Florida so a pretty good trip is in order to complete it. Also finding a counselor is hard here for it. On the other hand, the water related & fishing badges are easy peasy to find someone here for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMM Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Jackdaws said: I think the difficulty for some badges is based on where you live. For us, the Snow Sports badge it would be rather hard to achieve here in Florida so a pretty good trip is in order to complete it. Also finding a counselor is hard here for it. On the other hand, the water related & fishing badges are easy peasy to find someone here for them. You know, I feel like an idiot, but that's something I'd never thought of. We're in Virginia, where ski slopes and beaches are each less than two hours away. Not being able to earn a merit badge due to geography never occurred to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkstvns Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, Jackdaws said: I think the difficulty for some badges is based on where you live. For us, the Snow Sports badge it would be rather hard to achieve here in Florida so a pretty good trip is in order to complete it. Also finding a counselor is hard here for it. You would hope that would be the case. Some camps that are inhospitable to an activity go ahead and find workarounds. I classify these as "El Lame-O" merit badge programs... For example, Camp Hale in Oklahoma lets kids earn a "Winter Sports" merit badge during summer camp. Never mind that Oklahoma isn't exactly ski country even in the midst of the coldest winter.... How do they do it? Well, they put plastic sheets on a hill and pretend its snow. Here's a photo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackdaws Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, mrkstvns said: You would hope that would be the case. Some camps that are inhospitable to an activity go ahead and find workarounds. I classify these as "El Lame-O" merit badge programs... For example, Camp Hale in Oklahoma lets kids earn a "Winter Sports" merit badge during summer camp. Never mind that Oklahoma isn't exactly ski country even in the midst of the coldest winter.... How do they do it? Well, they put plastic sheets on a hill and pretend its snow. Here's a photo: Well I guess you could complete this based on these requirements. Granted D & I maybe challenging depending on how far they took to planning the merit badge area... Downhill (Alpine) Skiing Option a. Show how to use and maintain your own release bindings and explain the use of two others. Explain the international DIN standard and what it means to skiers. b. Explain the American Teaching System and a basic snow-skiing progression. c. Discuss the five types of Alpine skis. Demonstrate two ways to carry skis and poles safely and easily. d. Demonstrate how to ride one kind of lift and explain how to ride two others. e. On a gentle slope, demonstrate some of the beginning maneuvers learned in skiing. Include the straight run, gliding wedge, wedge stop, sidestep, and herringbone maneuvers. f. On slightly steeper terrain, show linked wedge turns. g. On a moderate slope, demonstrate five to 10 christies. h. Make a controlled run down an intermediate slope and demonstrate the following: 1. Short-, medium-, and long-radius parallel turns 2. A sideslip and safety (hockey) stop to each side 3. Traverse across a slope i. Demonstrate the ability to ski in varied conditions, including changes in pitch, snow conditions, and moguls. Maintain your balance and ability to turn. j. Name the major ski organizations in the United States and explain their functions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuctTape Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Did you all see the latest Scouting magazine? The FAQ column addressed "group" merit badges. One wonders if this was a reaction to often discussed issues here and/or survey comments. I know I have expressed significant concern with mB mills in the surveys I complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le Voyageur Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Recalling some of the MB's I tackled, the hardest was Fruit and Nut Growing - took three years. Others included Dairying, Signaling and Surveying....however, the difficulty rating of today's MB's is no more than the reflection of the changes now taking place in our society. The 4H type MB's of my era is simply knowledge and skills of rural America that are no longer needed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Bugling is definitely one of the more difficult merit badges. It took my son several months to earn it, even though he played trumpet in band. (He had some difficulty reaching the high notes.) Signs, Signals, and Codes is kind of difficult, because there is a lot of material to learn. Game Design is more difficult that some Scouts might expect, because it has its own specific terminology / jargon. And also because the Scouts have a tendency to want to just design their game and be done with it, but the merit badge requires an iterative process of play testing and making modifications / improvements to their game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashmaster Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 signs signals and codes are easy for Sea Scouts....just saying 🙂 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwazse Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Dipping in acrylic, or fashioning from metal ... that's about the only way to make an MB hard for every scout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkstvns Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, qwazse said: Dipping in acrylic, or fashioning from metal ... that's about the only way to make an MB hard for every scout. You'er telling me that belt loops are harder than merit badges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwazse Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 59 minutes ago, mrkstvns said: You'er telling me that belt loops are harder than merit badges? If I were a fighting man, I'd let you load your gloves with as many MB's as they could hold while I stuffed mine with belt loops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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