walk in the woods Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 (edited) An interesting podcast over at the Art of Manliness site if you have 45 minutes to give. Quote We also discuss recent research that suggests relying too heavily on GPS may increase your risk for dementia and be linked to other mental health problems. We end our conversation by musing on how it is that using GPS can shrink your sense of autonomy, while navigating on your own feels existentially empowering. Edited August 22, 2019 by RememberSchiff fixed dementia spelling in topic title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_in_CA Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 It turns out navigating through the environment changes the brain, and depending on GPS changes it in different ways (parts shrink). https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms14652 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSScout Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 HA ! Knew it all along. True story: Hawaiian vacation. Locals all say we HAVE to visit Waimea Falls. Scenic, historic, wildlife, might go swimming, Waimea Falls.... Got in rentacar, me driving , wife in right seat, Scoutson in back with AAA guidebook and map. Wife sez, "Smartphone sez turn right, turn left turn right...." pretty soon, we are in a suburban subdivision, coulda been at home except for the palm trees. Eventually, we are on a gravel road, facing a LOCKED chain link fence gate. I say, "this CAN'T be right". Wife points to Smart phone and shrugs. Then we see it. A handpainted sign on the fence that reads: "NOT WAIMEA FALLS." Scoutson takes the photo. Scoutson pulls out map, we are at Waimea falls in about 20 minutes..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagledad Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 It’s all relative, my brain would have felt very small without a GPS to navigate Italy last year. I would have been stuck in roundabouts the whole trip. 😳 Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mds3d Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 I don't have time to listen, but this "research" isn't linked to in the show notes. Does anyone who has listened have more information on this research? I am having a hard time believing that an author of a book about how humans used to navigate is unbiased when interpreting research about GPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSScout Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 And too, my favorite GPS thing..... NASCAR GPS: "turn left, NOW. turn left, NOW. turn left, NOW. turn left, NOW....." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls_are_cool Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 @SSScout what GPS app was your wife using? I edit maps for Waze as a hobby and enjoy the challenge of getting the app to route better. Though i use the app more to determine my time of arrivals. I did map up a BSA camp we went to this year. They report some usefulness finding areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John-in-KC Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Yes, I use Waze. I also use Google maps. I like having a mental map, and details. My wife and I were in Eastern Indiana this summer, on one of the Interstates. Waze diverted us onto two lane. Turns out there was a major wreck, and we’d have been stuck for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoutldr Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 I grew up in the 50s and 60s when gas stations gave out free maps. Worked just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John-in-KC Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 But they don’t anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codger Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Sadly, it is even hard to buy road maps online. We had an old map of New England that we used for trip planning for years. After many efforts to retape the seams, it fell apart. I tried to find an equivalent map in stores, online, etc. The best I could do was one printed in the 1980's which was from an "old" map dealer. I ordered it and a couple of others, and they were packaged in a paper envelope, mailed by the dealer via UPS, which left them in the rain on my porch without ringing the bell.... oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Eagle Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Ha! For SSScout: Waimea is a great location when you find it. After living there, we hacked all GPS to put your tourists on edge. Heck anyone can rely on a totally accurate, no-battery compass. That is so easy. Its so easy a tenderfoot can use a compass. Now for those that love a challenge, use a GPS entirely. Don't rely on maps, compass, or signs. Stick to what your GPS says and have fun. You will have such an adventure. Note: If you are on any Hawaiian island, the GPS will never correctly say the road name...more of the fun challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkstvns Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Fortunately though, most state highway departments still distribute free maps. (I get 'em at the Info Center / Rest Stops that are located near state lines). For a map of the whole U.S., I use the Rand McNally book-style Road Atlas. I still buy topo maps from USGS (nothing really matches them for doing any kind of map reading exercise). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Eagle Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 No maps or compass. Rely on intuition and GPS, you will never be wrong. We are never late, only delayed. All this talk of accurate maps and stuff is hogwash, stick your feelings and use the force. Be sure to take food and water, no sense in filing a travel plan as you will not have a plan after a few hundred yards. Oh, and use the moss on the trees to navigate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkstvns Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 20 hours ago, Double Eagle said: No maps or compass. Rely on intuition and GPS, you will never be wrong. We are never late, only delayed. All this talk of accurate maps and stuff is hogwash, stick your feelings and use the force. Be sure to take food and water, no sense in filing a travel plan as you will not have a plan after a few hundred yards. Oh, and use the moss on the trees to navigate. Real men don't need moss on trees. They can smell which way the wind blows...(acceptable answers for 2nd Class requirement 3d). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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