RememberSchiff Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) Does your unit buy military/government surplus to be prepared by thriftier meeting program needs? From Defense Logistics Agency website http://www.dla.mil/AboutDLA/News/NewsArticleView/Article/1012173/colorado-scouts-practice-reuse-is-recycling-mantra-with-used-military-goods/ Peyton, Colorado -- Boy Scout Troop 444 of Peyton, Colorado, takes the motto “be prepared†very seriously, and its scouts rely on DLA Disposition Services to acquire needed equipment. The troop has recently used DLA to stock up on backpacks, sleeping bags, safety glasses, goggles, tools and even a small Army cargo truck and Humvee. (Didn't Lem's troop pick up a Sherman tank? - RS) “People think of the Boy Scouts as an organization that just does a bunch of camping, but we do a whole lot more than that,†said Robert Herz, the troop’s quartermaster. “We spend a lot of our time doing community service, [we] engage in morale and self-confidence exercises and growing boys into competent adults and leaders.†Herz has experience when it comes to training young people to be leaders. He retired from the Air Force after 23 years as a lieutenant colonel and his two sons Robert Jr. and Chris are both Eagle Scouts. He said scouting involves 130 merit badges and rank advancements that prepare scouts for their future. Herz is a Merit Badge Counselor for over 20 Merit Badges, including: Automobile Maintenance, Fishing, Ham Radio, Cooking, Rifle, Shotgun, Archery, Emergency Preparedness, Astronomy, Aviation and Environmental Science. “If you can think of a job that one of our boys may hold in the future, we likely have a merit badge that corresponds with it and I try to jump in and help,†Herz said. And that is where the items from DLA Disposition Services come in. “We'll use the vehicles to support our future Automotive merit badges by having the scouts turn wrenches and change oil and complete periodic maintenance,†Herz said. “We also plan to use them for community service activities to haul gear and equipment in support of future Eagle Scout activities. “ “I have also recently become the troop's emergency preparedness focal point; got FEMA trained and earned the Emergency Preparedness Medal from our Pikes Peak Council,†Herz said. “So, our next focus will be to see how DLA can help us with our emergency preparedness focus in Boy Scouts.†The troop has already started. Recently, they helped with fire mitigation for the Black Forest fire by removing trees, brush and slash to prevent future tragedy. And they are getting ready for the next emergency by acquiring items such as generators, backpacks, flashlights and gloves from DLA Disposition Services. Herz stated that they now have the items available to respond, not if, but when there is an emergency, natural or otherwise. “If you see pictures of our scouts using a tool during a community service event, during an Eagle Scout Project, during one of our many Merit Badge [exercises], it likely came from DLA,†Herz said. “If you see them wearing safety glasses, they came from DLA. If you see them carrying a backpack on a three-day hike into the wilderness, it likely came from DLA. When you witness them digging ‘catholes’ while on a ‘leave-no-trace’ campout, the folding entrenching tool came from DLA.†“We are very appreciative for the opportunity to have formed this relationship with DLA and are grateful for the items we have acquired thus far,†Herz said, adding that they primarily use DLA Disposition Services at Fort Carson, Colorado. “These items truly exemplify the ‘reuse is recycling’ mantra and we are getting every last mile out of this equipment. Some of the backpacks have holes in them, some of the shovels are bent and rusty, much of the gear does not operate completely as designed, but we are thankful none-the-less, and are happy to patch those items, to get even more use out of them while we partake in our adventures. “ Editor’s note: the following copy was added to this story on August 3, 2017. Scouts are among the scores of groups that the General Services Administration lists as eligible to receive donations of surplus federal property through the State Agencies for Surplus Property. According to GSA's website, SASPs are state-run organizations that coordinate the federal program for the donation of federal surplus property to public, tax-supported entities and eligible, private, nonprofit, tax-exempt organizations. Within that large group are what GSA describes as "Educational Activities of Special Interest to the Armed Services." Boy Scouts -and Girl Scouts - are among nearly 20 eligible activities that also include entities such as the America National Red Cross, Little League and the U.S. Olympic Committee. GSA notes that those entities are designated by DOD and may receive federal surplus items that were formerly Defense Department property. Edited September 26, 2017 by RememberSchiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwazse Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 About 10 years ago, I tried to connect our camp director with a branch logistics guy who told me of a surplus of supplies following a major event. Part of the problem may have been timing (the start of a busy camp season). But, when I followed up with the CD, he said the stipulations were prohibitive... not the least of which was being on site to claim different items on different days. I'm not sure if the process has changed. But, I'd agree that troops who show desire and develop the discipline to prepare for relief work would do well to have a procurement guy with a flexible schedule to respond to available surpluses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkwin Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I applied for this in my state this week. I will share the results when I get a response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrifty Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Looked into this not long ago. As qwazse said "situations were prohibitive" for us. Nearest pickup for anything being several hours away. I would have been willing to make the drive depending on what the items were but the troop leaders were only interested in new items so I didn't waste my time. We also have very limited storage so having a bunch of cool stuff that is never used would not help us. It does appear to have some merit for those that can take advantage of it. Always interested in hearing any good scores or experiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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