fred johnson Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) I recently watched this video. I was extremely impressed with the quality of the analysis and the presentation. https://www.glaacbsa.org/Scouting_Accessible I was impressed, but disappointed in a few ways. Impressed Proposed cub scout choice of boy only pack, girl only pack and family pack with gender based dens. Taking on a hard topic that made BSA an anachronism. Concerned (aka disappointed) "Family" is really being used to obscure "co-ed". It's a stepping stone term. I'd like to see the proposed Troop structure parallel to the proposed pack structure. I could see groups wanting purely single gender troops. But I could also see units wanting to create a "family" troop (aka co-ed) troop because numbers are low. It will happen. If we don't allow this, then groups will create work arounds that will be a big headache. Troop 123B for boys and Troop 123G for girls. Same leader. Same committee. Same schedule. Same camps. Two checking accounts. Two sets of re-charter paperwork. ... The solution is to keep it parallel to packs. Single gender patrols as the proposed pack structure is single gender dens. Double down on the "patrol" is the fundamental unit of scouting. I'd hate to see a new set of requirements or a new program created. Adult leaders have enough trouble managing all the existing requirements and structure and rules. ... What ever happens, keep it simple. ... We won't be moving out of an anachronism unless it's the same program (requirements, structure, rules, etc) for both genders. Even these comments, I am extremely impressed with the proposed ideas. I hope these changes don't take years. I know several 15 year old young ladies that would jump at the chance to be in Boy Scouts and to earn Eagle. Edited July 20, 2017 by fred johnson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJCubScouter Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 As for the survey available at that site, I notice it is not an anonymous survey. Hmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwazse Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 ..."Family" is really being used to obscure "co-ed". It's a stepping stone term... It's doublespeak. I'm rankled by it. I can't imagine it sitting well in the heartland. As for the survey available at that site, I notice it is not an anonymous survey. Hmm. That's so Greater LA can filter out us ne're-do-wells from parts east. Actually, it may indeed be a national survey. But I can understand the interest in knowing which opinions are from which stakeholders and special interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle94-A1 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Like they will listen anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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