Iconic MayDay Scout image

[TAHAWK]

Through the door and well settled into the living room.

[RememberSchiff]

Couldn't happen here.

My understanding

   1. The BSA disallows scouts from wearing the scout uniform while attending a political rally with the exception of briefly serving as color guard.

    2. The stated reason that I have read over the years is because it might be interpreted as a BSA endorsement of some party or position. I have not read that "scout safety" was a reason. 

 

Q: Why is this the rule?

A: The policy is meant to prevent someone from using our brand to convey support of a candidate or ideology. This prevents Scouts from being used by any party in campaign advertisements or materials.

http://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2016/07/22/can-packs-troops-teams-or-crews-participate-in-political-rallies/

  

   Sadly, maybe this should be reconsidered.

[Back Pack]

Couldn't happen here.

My understanding

   1. The BSA disallows scouts from wearing the scout uniform while attending a political rally with the exception of briefly serving as color guard.

    2. The stated reason that I have read over the years is because it might be interpreted as a BSA endorsement of some party or position. I have not read that "scout safety" was a reason. 

 

Q: Why is this the rule?

A: The policy is meant to prevent someone from using our brand to convey support of a candidate or ideology. This prevents Scouts from being used by any party in campaign advertisements or materials.

http://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2016/07/22/can-packs-troops-teams-or-crews-participate-in-political-rallies/

  

   Sadly, maybe this should be reconsidered.

Too late: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/06/30/nyregion/boy-scouts-make-provocative-statement-at-gay-pride-parade.html

[NJCubScouter]

There is nothing remotely "far-right" about "Workers Party of Social Justice".

It's just words. This Czech party is in fact an extreme far-right and/or neo-Nazi party, depending on which article you read. In the U.S. "Workers Party of Social Justice" would more likely be a "progressive" or "left-wing" party, but even here we had the "U.S. Labor Party" which had nothing to do with labor or the "labor party movement", and the "National Democratic Policy Committee", which had nothing to do with the Democratic Party. They were both vehicles for crazy-right-wing Lyndon LaRouche.

Edited May 10, 2017 by NJCubScouter

[TAHAWK]

"Crazy"  But did he make money at it?  

[Stosh]

facism

1.

(sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

2.

(sometimes initial capital letter) the philosophy, principles, or methods of fascism.

3.

(initial capital letter) a political movement that employs the principles and methods of fascism, especially the one established by Mussolini in Italy 1922 – 43.

 

Socialism

 

1.

a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

2.

procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.

3.

(in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.

 

Capitalism

 

1.

an economic system in which investment in and ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of wealth is made and maintained chiefly by private individuals or corporations, especially as contrasted to cooperatively or state-owned means of wealth.

 

Pick your poison.... or better yet, make up your own concoction on the fly. 

[MattR]

It's just words. This Czech party is in fact an extreme far-right and/or neo-Nazi party, depending on which article you read. In the U.S. "Workers Party of Social Justice" would more likely be a "progressive" or "left-wing" party, but even here we had the "U.S. Labor Party" which had nothing to do with labor or the "labor party movement", and the "National Democratic Policy Committee", which had nothing to do with the Democratic Party. They were both vehicles for crazy-right-wing Lyndon LaRouche.

This is so much more than any political party, this is part of Czech's messy history. First the Nazis came through and destroyed everything. Then the Soviets came through. Then the Soviets came back in force in 68. They finally left in 89, recent enough that this girl's grand parents lived through what happened and very well could have been involved in fighting the Soviets. This is not just a scout at a political rally in a peaceful democracy where people argue about taxes. This is about people that have lived through some horrific things.

 

There's more to this picture than what you see. I went and looked around and found some other photos of that event. This march was just one of several things going on that day. There was dancing and people eating picnics and all sorts of fun stuff. There were a few photos of the sign that the girl was holding and someone translated it. It was something like "we can help raise your kids." In other words, the scouts were trying to recruit other scouts at a festival when all of a sudden the Nazi party came marching through and the girl stood her ground. The reason I'm saying it was the Nazi party is that someone identified what the guy was wearing.

[TAHAWK]

What I find interesting is that neither Hitler nor Il Duce had complete power.  Both had to give some decision-making power and deference to others.  So the German air force had its own armored division, really double-sized,  as this amused  Der dicke Hermann.  Most of the generals who strongly argued with Hitler were retired, not shot or even removed from the military ranks.    Those thought to be involved in attempted assassination were, of course, executed - or forced to commit "suicide in Rommel's case..

 

Now Uncle Joe was close to the real thing.  Those who were even suspected of disagreement were shot.  

 

Then we have the Supreme Nut in North Korea.

[qwazse]

"nut", but did he make money (counterfeit or otherwise) at it?

[TAHAWK]

"nut", but did he make money (counterfeit or otherwise) at it?

Surely he lives high off the proverbial hog, but should he stumble, the list of those who will appear with long knives gets longer and longer even as he murders 100,000s by starvation and otherwise   Can't take it with you, and all that.  

[NJCubScouter]

"Crazy"  But did he make money at it?  

 

I suspect you know this:  He did make money, but the manner in which he made the money resulted in a five-year stay in federal prison.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche#1986.E2.80.931988:_Raids_and_criminal_convictions

 

I am not sure how much, if any, of the money he got to keep.  Maybe that is in that article somewhere, but I didn't read the whole thing. 

[TAHAWK]

Oh, him.  I lost track of which nut was the topic, Lyndon or Kim, nutty politician or nutty dictator.  Sorry.

[NJCubScouter]

Oh, him.  I lost track of which nut was the topic, Lyndon or Kim, nutty politician or nutty dictator.  Sorry.

 

It is difficult to keep all the crazy people straight sometimes.

[Sentinel947]

Oh, him.  I lost track of which nut was the topic, Lyndon or Kim, nutty politician or nutty dictator.  Sorry.

Nutty Kim makes money by selling natural resources and having his diplomats abroad sell street drugs.

[ianwilkins]

Too late: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/06/30/nyregion/boy-scouts-make-provocative-statement-at-gay-pride-parade.html

 

Is that a political rally?

 

UK HQ actually organise officially sanctioned participant groups at the UK pride events. All seems very jolly fun and colourful.