Is Fund Raising form needed for Eagle if self funding?

[Scout12]

Has funds since starting-now they want that form even that he has not asked because he did not plan to. 

[qwazse]

I guess nobody's told you that Boy Scouts love paperwork.

Our boys simply made clear in their workbook that materials were purchased by the beneficiary or the scout. No fundraising necessary.

But, districts may differ on this. If their asking for the form anyway, complete it even though you're basically saying fundraising will be by opening one's own piggy bank.

This is not a hill to argue over.

[RememberSchiff]

Our scouts prefer self-funding (from jobs not begonline.com) and is so noted in their workbooks.

[Back Pack]

Should be documented in his plan.

[SSScout]

Money needs to be accounted for.   Any money "raised" for the project, no matter how raised, if left over,  should belong to the project beneficiary, yes?   "A Scout is Trustworthy."  

[Stosh]

Money needs to be accounted for.   Any money "raised" for the project, no matter how raised, if left over,  should belong to the project beneficiary, yes?   "A Scout is Trustworthy."  

 

It depends.  If the money was raised for the purpose of the project, yes, it belongs to the beneficiary.  If the money was raised by the candidate by mowing lawns and shoveling walks, and he pays for the project out of his own earned income, then the money belongs to the boy.

[Col. Flagg]

Or...we can just go to the source and find out what they say about it. 

 

https://nega-bsa.org/advancement/eagle-project-fundraising-policy/

[qwazse]

Or...we can just go to the source and find out what they say about it. 

 

https://nega-bsa.org/advancement/eagle-project-fundraising-policy/

Well, hopefully that's the OP's council, or his council has something similar in writing.

 

I always though the forms from national were sufficiently clear regarding this. Evidently not for some folks.

[Col. Flagg]

Well, hopefully that's the OP's council, or his council has something similar in writing.

 

I always though the forms from national were sufficiently clear regarding this. Evidently not for some folks.

 

Yeah, my bad. It was supposed to be this link to the GTA as well as the Eagle Workbook itself.

 

http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/33088.pdf

[NJCubScouter]

The GTA section is 9.0.2.10 (hmm, reminds of a tv series, though I never watched it), which says in pertinent part:  "And unless it involves contributions only from the beneficiary, or from the candidate, his parents or relatives, his unit or its chartered organization, or from parents or members in his unit, it must be approved by the local council."   So apparently you, or your family, or the unit, CO or beneficiary may contribute money with no paperwork.  (Interesting that they include the unit itself; I would like to see someone in our troop try to justify spending money on one Eagle's project and not another's.  Project beneficiaries will often provide contributions, usually some of the materials for the project.)

 

The same GTA section confirms that if funds are actually raised (presumably outside the sources listed above), any excess funds go to the beneficiary, but that if the beneficiary is "not allowed, for whatever reason, to retain any excess funds, supplies, or materials, the beneficiary should be asked to designate a suitable charity to receive them or allow the unit to retain the funds. The unit must not influence this decision."

[fred johnson]

GTA is pretty clear.  It's the in-between people and direction they give and the time to put that direction in place.  Only scouts raising $$$ or more.  Then, only if $$$ and you are raising funds in one of these ways.  Then, everyone needs to do the form.  Then, swing back to the GTA words.  It's hard as the communication takes six months to a year to get everyone back on the same boat.  So for the last few years, everyone has been out of wack with current expectations because expectations change and it takes time to get the word out.  That's why I like referring to GTA and sticking with that.  
 
But even GTA can open the door for interpretation.  GTA also says ....
 

Note that local councils may add further definition to the standards established here or on the application form. For example, they could state that fundraisers such as bake sales and car washes do not require a fundraising application and are, in essence, preapproved. They could also establish dollar thresholds; for example, “Any effort expected to raise less than $500 does not require an application.â€