BeastlyGaming Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I wanted to use it for my troop but I actually want to consider doing a big Discord Server (it's a chat app for gamers much like Skype). Anyone think that this could have potential (and if you've been here a while tell me if it'd be okay to post the invite link) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back Pack Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I wanted to use it for my troop but I actually want to consider doing a big Discord Server (it's a chat app for gamers much like Skype). Anyone think that this could have potential (and if you've been here a while tell me if it'd be okay to post the invite link) I would run this past your Scoutmaster. If you do it privately, meaning not endorsed by the troop, then that's up to you and your friends. If you want to make it an official troop platform, that's a whole different story. This will need your SM and likely your troop committee to weigh in. Our guys built a private Minecraft server only for members. They worked it in to one of the technology MB classes. Network and server security were built in, as well as language filters, logging and TK rules engines. Worked great. I will note though that Boy Scouts is about spending LESS time on technology and more time outdoors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastlyGaming Posted April 4, 2017 Author Share Posted April 4, 2017 I meant for every scout not just the troop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Flagg Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) I meant for every scout not just the troop... I think what @@backpack is saying is that you can put up a server on your own. That has no issues other than your own cost, time, effort, etc. You should also check with your parents because there may be issues around minors setting up certain services. If you are trying to something "official" where your troop is involved, that would have to go through your SM and the TC chair. Just like your troop website or social media sites, they are responsible (and liable) for anything posted there. There are BSA policies that we as adult leaders have to follow. It is good that you are checking, but I think you want to sit down with your parents and your troop leaders and discuss your idea. The reason to be careful is that such a platform gives criminals a great please to prey on unsuspecting people, youth or adults. There are huge youth protection issues involved, so talking to your parents and leaders is your best course of action. Edited April 4, 2017 by Col. Flagg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastlyGaming Posted April 4, 2017 Author Share Posted April 4, 2017 I just want a lobby scouts and hang out or game together live chat n' stuff... I know my parents don't mind that much and I'm not going to do anything through the troop, though I may tell the scouts it's there off to the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagledad Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 He is talking about an app for all scouts in all units in the US and maybe even farther. I'm not a technogeek, but I encouraged my scouts to go for their dreams. One scout forgot to use the scout law in his design of our Troop Web page and had to reeled in a little, so my only suggestion is keep all things within the scout oath and law. Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastlyGaming Posted April 4, 2017 Author Share Posted April 4, 2017 Well isn't that what the rules of the server would be (i put those in) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagledad Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 This could possibly turn into the Facebook. Scoutsbook? Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberSchiff Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) Some of our scouts have used Minecraft (they setup their own game servers) and Xbox-live as a communication means. Generally troop/patrol discussions were short and the subsequent game playing long. Scouts have done similar with ham radio, but be aware managing an operating Discord server is much more work. Do you have the time? Maybe like ham radio, the server is only live for a hour or two each day? With your parent's consent, start small and unofficial and go from there. How will you authenticate users are real Scouts? I disable spammers on scouter.com daily. My $0.02 Edited April 4, 2017 by RememberSchiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumbymaster Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 This is an interesting idea, and could have a lot of potential. I do not mean to discourage your idea or effort, but there are some real concerns for safety depending on the scale of the effort. If you are looking for just your troop and/or oa lodge, where you have some way to verify each member, and are willing to moderate or at least review the content you will probably be fine; however, as soon as you start opening this up to Scouts whom you have not met or do not know well, then all the other problems with these types of systems come into play. For one, if any members are younger than 13, you may be subject to federal guidelines on COPA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_Online_Protection_Act In addition, have you given thought to how you would validate the scouts applying for membership and making sure that no unauthorized persons become members? The BSA also has some very strict rules regarding communications between adults and scouts. If adults are also members of the site, you would need to think about how the rules could be enforced or accommodated; if not, will Scouts turning 18 be kicked off (or restricted from who they could communicate with)? Another good start would be to review the BSA guidelines on Social Media http://www.scouting.org/Home/Marketing/Resources/SocialMedia.aspx I applaud your initiative. I hope that you can find a good way to bring your ideas to fruition. Either way, you will learn a great lesson about how rules (which often have valid reasons) can infringe on the implementation of a good idea. While it may not be your intention, I can think of at least 3 or 4 merit badges where an effort like this could probably satisfy many of the requirements. Best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJCubScouter Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I'm glad some of you here know what BeastlyGaming is talking about, because I sure don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberSchiff Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) I'm glad some of you here know what BeastlyGaming is talking about, because I sure don't. My guess, he's talking about replacing scouter,com with a scout-run chat server. Edited April 4, 2017 by RememberSchiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJCubScouter Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 My guess, he's talking about replacing scouter,com with a scout-run chat server. The thought had crossed my mind. Maybe all the moderators will be working for him someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastlyGaming Posted April 4, 2017 Author Share Posted April 4, 2017 Lol you guys are creative... Discord would not and never has been subject to Protection acts as it's just like every other chat service... As far as BSA goes their not the ones running the Discord, though it may be related to scouting I would be able to manage it and keep it scout friendly Regarding the identity of scouts, I'm not all that concerned with what the adult leaders would in truth consider "predators"... People in the discord are subject to many open conversations and the discord will constantly remind it's users to be safe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastlyGaming Posted April 4, 2017 Author Share Posted April 4, 2017 @@NJCubScouter I mean if your wanting to join it, my other thread has the invite... You could volunteer as a patrol leader (which is a moderator)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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