RememberSchiff Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 I was not aware there are US Border agents working pre-clearance to US at Canadian airports (currently 9). The procedure is also in effect at the Port of Vancouver, at Vancouver’s train station and on some B.C.-Washington ferry routes. Pre-clearance is expected to be introduced at Montreal’s train station for Amtrak’s Montreal-New York City route later this year. http://www.rcinet.ca/en/2017/03/30/canadians-growing-uneasy-about-more-power-for-u-s-border-guards-in-canada/ http://www.rcinet.ca/en/2017/02/13/bill-c23-proposed-legislation-would-heighten-powers-of-u-s-border-guards-in-canada/ An international agreement with the US in 2015 permitted U.S. border agents to operate on Canadian soil, in airports, rail, bus and other terminals. This was to create “pre-clearance†to reduce delays at US entry points. Now a new federal proposal, Bill C-23 would give U.S. agents on Canadian soil, even more powers, including the power to detain Canadians, conduct strip searches of Canadian travellers, and to carry sidearms. “A Canadian going to the U.S. through a pre-clearance area [on Canadian soil] can say: ‘I don’t like the way [an interview is] going and I’ve chosen not to visit your country.’ And they can just turn around and walk out,†says Calgary immigration lawyer Michael Greene, the national chair of the Canadian Bar Association’s citizenship and immigration section. “Under the new proposed bill C-23, they wouldn’t be able to walk out. They can be held and forced to answer questions, first to identify themselves, which is not so offensive, but secondly, to explain the reasons for leaving, and to explain their reasons for wanting to withdraw,†Greene says. A survey released today by the polling firm Angus Reid Institute shows Canadians are becoming more uneasy about giving American authorities more powers on Canadian soil. IMO, very odd, sounds like the movie Casablanca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back Pack Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Well aren't you a ray of sunshine! Sorry. Just wanted to point out to the Canadians that there are countries wHere their girls wouldn't have basic human rights to put their indignation about the USA in perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back Pack Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 The USA has had border and customs agents living inside countries for years. Most of the time aligned with the embassy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberSchiff Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) The USA has had border and customs agents living inside countries for years. Most of the time aligned with the embassy. Having them at the US Embassy (US soil) is different from having them at a Canadian airport (Canadian soil). If I was a Canadian, I would not allow a foreign government police powers on Canadian soil. I would be ok with the US pre-screening and Go/No-go but detaining should be a matter for solely for RCMP or Canadian police. Edited March 31, 2017 by RememberSchiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back Pack Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Having them at the US Embassy (US soil) is different from having them at a Canadian airport (Canadian soil). If I was a Canadian, I would not allow a foreign government police powers on Canadian soil. I would be ok with the US pre-screening and Go/No-go but detaining should be a matter for solely for RCMP or Canadian police. I should be clear. Aligned with embassies meaning they report there, but working at POEs. I know they are at Munich airport as I recently ran in to them there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankylus Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Stupid is as stupid does. If they don't want to come to the US, fine. They can stay in Canada. There is plenty to keep them occupied in Canada. Ever been to BAMF? They have wonderful resources for their program in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrinator Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Ironically, Canadian immigration law is probably more restrictive than American. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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