NJCubScouter Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I never would have bet that a thread could go from transgender Scouts to marauding moose in only 511 posts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrinator Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I didn't say it shouldn't be done (married folks tenting together), I asked why it was "mad" (I guess that is British for "crazy") that they not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stosh Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I never would have bet that a thread could go from transgender Scouts to marauding moose in only 511 posts. The gender neutral ones are the worst! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrinator Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 The gender neutral ones are the worst! They're in rut all the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJCubScouter Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I didn't say it shouldn't be done (married folks tenting together), I asked why it was "mad" (I guess that is British for "crazy") that they not. I agree with you that it is not "mad" (i.e. crazy) to require married couples to tent separately. It is unusual, but as I said, it is a matter of personal preference. But as far as your post, I just didn't see what family camping vs. Scout camping had to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleonFire Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 My wife and I never share a tent on a campout. Her decision. We trained the kids from the get go that if they come out of their tent at night that they go straight to the Leaders tent. And since my co Leaders have a tendency to be off and on in their consistency she thinks I need to be at that tent for them to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridgeskip Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I think Tyke may be more commenting on there being any rule at all regarding the sleeping arrangements for adults. Other than a requirement for adults to have separate accommodation to youth members adults are free to choose their own arrangements regardless of gender, marital status etc Quite simply a big cultural difference I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyke Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 yep in the UK you can pretty much share a tent with whoever you want as long as its adults, no one really cares as its generally none of there business. I share with my scout leader who is also my other half, we are not married, the kids know we are a gay couple, as do most of there parents, and the parents are more interested in us providing a safe and fun camp than who and were we sleep. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyke Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) (Double post) Edited April 5, 2017 by NJCubScouter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankylus Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 BSA policy permits married couples to tent together. Although there has never been a married couple among the leaders in my troop, I suspect that most married couples would choose to share a tent (like Stosh and his wife) and that most units would not have a problem with it. It does not matter whether it is "Scout camping" or "family camping." It is a matter of personal/unit preference. We routinely have several married couples on outings in our troop and they all share a tent with their married partner. Nobody has ever had a problem with it, and we sometimes have as many as 60 to 80 on an outing. It never occurred to me that anybody would object. We did one time on a cub scout outing have a divorced couple who wanted to share a tent. I mean, they had once been married, then they divorced, and they were in the process of reconciling. They came to us and asked what the rules on the sleeping arrangements were. I told them that the rule was that unmarried men and women were not permitted to tent together but that the rules did not address divorced couples and other complications. And that I wasn't going to check for compliance with the general rule in middle of the night. But this question seems to be taking a hit now with the whole trans/homosexuality thing. We just are not getting any kind of guidance from national. I truly resent being put in a position where I HAVE to deal with other people's sexuality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyke Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 so if you have a couple who arn't married, then under the BSA rules are they allowed to sleep in the same tent ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJCubScouter Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) so if you have a couple who arn't married, then under the BSA rules are they allowed to sleep in the same tent ? The Guide to Safe Scouting, apparently the current version (http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/34416.pdf) says: No adult may share a tent with a person of the opposite sex unless he or she is that adult’s spouse. (It's on Page 2 of the Guide, which is the 11th page in the PDF file.) Edited April 6, 2017 by NJCubScouter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Flagg Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 The Guide to Safe Scouting, apparently the current version (http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/34416.pdf) says: Clearly not updated to reflect the policy changes of late. Or intentionally discriminates against heterosexuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyke Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 so you could live your other half with for years, have a couple of kids, mortgage etc but on camp you have to sleep apart ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Flagg Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 so you could live your other half with for years, have a couple of kids, mortgage etc but on camp you have to sleep apart ? Apparently so. Unless you are two men or two women. Then the policy does not even address that, so one is good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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