Stosh Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Ironically there is no evidence of bandannas be used widely as headgear by pirates or buccaneers. This was added later to the mythology as garment itself did not reach Europe (Portugal) until the 16th century and were not popular with men in England (as a neck covering) until the 18th century. Maybe the troop should wear the leather hats these sources reference? https://sites.google.com/site/realpirates000/home/historical-topics/clothing-and-accessories/bandanna Why would any self-respecting pirate want to wear a flag on his head? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tampa Turtle Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 I'd like to add a contrary voice - just to give you (and your SPL) something to consider, and how appropriate that you ask the day before Independence Day, arguably the United State's most sacred day and definitely the most patriotic day. One of the goals of the BSA is to instill patriotic citizenship in the Scouts. What's that phrase I've heard bandied about during some of our membership controversies? We want our Scouts to be the best kind of citizens they can be??? Do you have any veterans in your unit? Any of the parents veterans? How about in the sponsoring organization? Do you think you might encounter some Scouters at camp that are veterans? Do you think they will think the wearing of pirate bandanas at flag ceremonies is fun and shows respect to the US Flag or is it possible that it's going to be seen as disrespectful to the flag and to the veterans in attendance? The Pirate Bandanas sounds fun - wear them as head gear as part of the activity uniform, but for the flag ceremony, consider wearing them as neckerchiefs, not as headgear. Some pirates were among the Americans under Andrew Jackson at the Battle of New Orleans. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tampa Turtle Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 I agree with Beavah...it would be the talk of the camp...the OTHER Troops would be talking about it. This is the kind of Team spirit one should encourage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tampa Turtle Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 I'm sorry you and your classmates had to endure the carping by those nitpicking scouters. I've got stronger words to describe their actions, but this is a family forum. One word is "chicken" and the other begins with "s." (salad?) They must subscribe to that school of thought "I've never done it that way = it's wrong." This kind of stuff goes on everywhere in the BSA. Then we wonder why scouters up and quit one day. I agree. Our boys have been doing the 'Color Guard Swicheroo' with few collisions and little loss of decorum since Wolf Cubs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meyerc13 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 with few collisions This made me laugh out loud. Like I said, personally I was sure the kids could handle taking the flag to the left or right without issue, they're not dumb, just young. I also had never heard of the idea of moving the flag from the podium down into the audience thus making it okay to move it from the left to the right, but when I researched it I found out the other member of my class was correct - it isn't necessarily wrong (and their is some logic behind it being part of the audience - I like to think of it as troops on parade marching up to the podium... the flag would be on the right in a parade) but now I know why they say they don't recommend doing this. Most people will think it is wrong, so to avoid confusion (and complaints) it is best to stick with what is more familiar. To circle back to this topic, while we might be able to argue that pirate bandanas were part of the uniform for this camp, I think the common interpretation is that the hats need to be official BSA hats to be considered part of the uniform when it comes to flag ceremonies. To do less could go beyond offending the uniform police to disrespecting our flag and all of those who have given so much to defend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSScout Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Buccaneer = expensive corn. Privateer = Nobody bother my corn. Lavalier = smokin' hot hearing appendage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stosh Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Okay @@SSScout what's the Pirate's favorite letter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwazse Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Okay @@SSScout what's the Pirate's favorite letter? The one his garrrghlfriend wrote him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walk in the woods Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Okay @@SSScout what's the Pirate's favorite letter? It's the SEA that he loves! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSScout Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Stosh, me hearty, Tis an easy one. Aye, of the Alphabet, if he be literate, his favorite letter be 'ARRRRRRRRRRRRR". What be his favorite type of foot covering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stosh Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Nay not arrgh nor aye it be, For the pirate's first love is the sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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