I wonder how long it will take BSA to ban kickball?

[Stosh]

https://www.facebook.com/WhistleSports/videos/vb.441241125922184/950733694972922/?type=2&theater

[desertrat77]

Irving's decision making process:

 

- Is it fun?

- Do kids play the game at non-scouting gatherings with little/no injury?

- Is a lawsuit possible?

- Will the attorneys' fees result in less money to spend on an upgraded executive coffee bar, or new ergonomic conference room chairs, at HQ?

 

If the answer is "yes" to any of the above, the activity will be banned as soon as the paperwork makes it way thru the system.

[Krampus]

Had dodge ball are recent district event. Some scouters/parents thought it was an unfair game because the scout who were better at throwing and catching had an advantage.

 

The referee for the event was also the archery range instructor. His reply? "Yes, this game favors those boys who can throw and catch well, just like archery favors those with good aim. That's actually how life is meant to work."

 

Edited April 27, 2016 by Krampus

[qwazse]

So much for those fire-starting contests ... Unfair advantage to patrols with pyromaniacs.

[Sentinel947]

So much for those fire-starting contests ... Unfair advantage to patrols with pyromaniacs.

Knot relays are unfair. kids with good memories and motor control have an advantage.....lol

[NJCubScouter]

So much for those fire-starting contests ... Unfair advantage to patrols with pyromaniacs.

If that's the case, I think all of our patrols are evenly matched.

[Cambridgeskip]

That is awesome! Have just emailed the link to my PLs......

[ianwilkins]

The dry version is big in Liberia.

 

Hmm, we've got some rolls of damp proof course....

[RichardB]

http://www.cpsc.gov/en/Recalls/1993/WHAM-O-Backyard-Water-Slides-Are-Dangerous-For-Adults-And-Teenagers/

 

PROBLEM: The WHAM-O slides are designed for use by children only. Use by adults and teens has the potential to result in neck injury and paralysis. Because of their weight and height, adults and teenagers who dive onto the water slide may hit and abruptly stop in such a way that could cause permanent spinal cord injury, resulting in quadriplegia or paraplegia. The slider's forward momentum drives the body into the neck and compresses the spinal cord. Kransco reports that seven adults and a 13-year-old teenager suffered neck injuries or paralysis while using WHAM-O slides. 

Edited April 27, 2016 by RichardB

[RichardB]

BTW - that's not kickball.   This is kickball:   https://www.kickball.com/files/KICKBALL_OFFICIAL_RULES_2012.pdf 

[TAHAWK]

Does the ball have a human face painted on it?

[meyerc13]

http://www.cpsc.gov/en/Recalls/1993/WHAM-O-Backyard-Water-Slides-Are-Dangerous-For-Adults-And-Teenagers/

 

PROBLEM: The WHAM-O slides are designed for use by children only. Use by adults and teens has the potential to result in neck injury and paralysis. Because of their weight and height, adults and teenagers who dive onto the water slide may hit and abruptly stop in such a way that could cause permanent spinal cord injury, resulting in quadriplegia or paraplegia. The slider's forward momentum drives the body into the neck and compresses the spinal cord. Kransco reports that seven adults and a 13-year-old teenager suffered neck injuries or paralysis while using WHAM-O slides. 

 

Then I think we should ban anything involving the ground.  Because I think the problem isn't so much with the slide as the surface underneath the slide.  Also, when did it stop being common sense that if you dive headfirst into the GROUND, that you could end up with head or neck injuries?  Thank goodness we have the government to warn us of the dangers.

[Stosh]

http://www.cpsc.gov/en/Recalls/1993/WHAM-O-Backyard-Water-Slides-Are-Dangerous-For-Adults-And-Teenagers/

 

PROBLEM: The WHAM-O slides are designed for use by children only. Use by adults and teens has the potential to result in neck injury and paralysis. Because of their weight and height, adults and teenagers who dive onto the water slide may hit and abruptly stop in such a way that could cause permanent spinal cord injury, resulting in quadriplegia or paraplegia. The slider's forward momentum drives the body into the neck and compresses the spinal cord. Kransco reports that seven adults and a 13-year-old teenager suffered neck injuries or paralysis while using WHAM-O slides. 

 

@@RichardB this is exactly the thinking that will eventually bring this kind of fun to a halt by the BSA.  With this kind of logic one is going to see swimming pools banned at BSA camps because a few kids were stupid enough to dive into the shallow end of the pool despite the warning signs and the fact that they were warned several times previously about it.

 

The point I was making was these kids were having waaaayyyy too much fun playing "kickball" without rules and without proper adult supervision and....  and..... and...... lawyers involved, and....

Edited April 27, 2016 by Stosh

[perdidochas]

Had dodge ball are recent district event. Some scouters/parents thought it was an unfair game because the scout who were better at throwing and catching had an advantage.

 

The referee for the event was also the archery range instructor. His reply? "Yes, this game favors those boys who can throw and catch well, just like archery favors those with good aim. That's actually how life is meant to work."

 

The above should be hard to believe (did you say scouters thought it was unfair?), but unfortunately, it is not. 

[RichardB]

Why must you read something into the post.  As far back as 1993 youth and adults were breaking their neck because they used a product not intended for their use.    

 

Flash forward to a game someone made up and labels as kickball.   Same risk, exposure is there.  Probably more so today than in 1993 due to increase in obese kids and adults.    

 

Richard

Edited April 27, 2016 by RichardB