TAHAWK Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Why not? Bags open. Wagons hold movable amounts. Shovels move shovels-full. The patrols probably included at least some members over 97 lb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krampus Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) Why not? Bags open. Wagons hold movable amounts. Shovels move shovels-full. The patrols probably included at least some members over 97 lb. My 3rd Grade teacher taught me to break things down to a word problem: "Mr. Tahawk bought 63 bags of mulch from his local Cub Scout Pack. Each bag weighs 50 lbs. The average Cub Scout weighs 64 lbs. There are 12 boys unloading the trailer. How long will it take to unload the trailer when it stops at Mr. Tahawk's house? How many bags will the lightest boy unload? How many bags will the heaviest boy unload? How many boys will sit down and refuse to do work because it is 'too hard' or the bags are 'too heavy'? How long until the first adult has an aneurysm because it is taking too long?" Edited January 25, 2016 by Krampus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentinel947 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 My 3rd Grade teacher taught me to break things down to a word problem: "Mr. Tahawk bought 63 bags of mulch from his local Cub Scout Pack. Each bag weighs 50 lbs. The average Cub Scout weighs 64 lbs. There are 12 boys unloading the trailer. How long will it take to unload the trailer when it stops at Mr. Tahawk's house? How many bags will the lightest boy unload? How many bags will the heaviest boy unload? How many boys will sit down and refuse to do work because it is 'too hard' or the bags are 'too heavy'? How long until the first adult has an aneurysm because it is taking too long?" Did she not teach reading? He said former Cub Scout. So your word problem is flawed from the first sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentinel947 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 one comment on the fundraising thing, and parents or scouts doing it. A few years back, I bought some mulch form one of our former cub scouts, delivery included. When it came time for delivery, I was surprised when one of the leaders pulled up with his truck and huge trailer and a bunch of the adult leaders piled out to do the unloading and toting to the top of my driveway. Silly me, I was expecting a bunch of Scouts. I would expect a team of Scouts and adult leaders. When I was a Scout, I would have wanted to be part of the delivery teams, and when I say "part of" I really mean leading the delivery teams. Just takes away another opportunity for the Scouts to do and lead in the name of adult convenience. Can a 95 pound 1st year Scout move all that mulch himself? Of course not. Can a whole patrol? Maybe. What about two patrols? a Troop is a team. Boy Scouts can't sell Christmas trees or do cook whole spaghetti dinners without help either, I don't see the difference here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blw2 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Seriously???? You were expecting some Tiger Cub to drag a 50# bag of mulch up your driveway? Upon further reading.... FORMER Cub Scout. So I'll rephrase that, You were expecting some 97# Webelos cross-over to drag a 50# bag of mulch up your driveway? ummm.... yep along with a few 15-17 year olds and a few adults maybe with some carts, wheel barrows, or dollies.... Some of those young guys are almost my size! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAHAWK Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Did the Scouts plan this? Were they guided in considering what resources might be needed? Let us say that the exercise is a failure. So what? Boy Scouting does not exist to execute efficient mulch spreading. “t can be a very messy business, and painful to watch. Meetings where the boy leaders are in charge can be very chaotic. And it can be very tempting for adults to jump in and sort things out, because that is what adults do. But we have to remember that that is the process of Scouting. That is how they learn—even from disorganization and failure.†I used to umpire youth baseball - Little League through high school. It was amazing how many adults acted as if the failure of a boy was their failure - think "aneurysm" At least in youth baseball, you didn't have adults taking the mound or striding to the plate, bat in hand. But that is exactly what I constantly see in troops. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentinel947 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Did the Scouts plan this? Were they guided in considering what resources might be needed? Let us say that the exercise is a failure. So what? Boy Scouting does not exist to execute efficient mulch spreading. I used to umpire youth baseball - Little League through high school. It was amazing how many adults acted as if the failure of a boy was their failure - think "aneurysm" At least in youth baseball, you didn't have adults taking the mound or striding to the plate, bat in hand. But that is exactly what I constantly see in troops. Well stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krampus Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 At least in youth baseball, you didn't have adults taking the mound or striding to the plate, bat in hand. But that is exactly what I constantly see in troops. They would if they could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJCubScouter Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 maybe with some carts, wheel barrows, or dollies.... No wheelbarrows, I think those are prohibited by G2SS now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJCubScouter Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 They would if they could. You're not kidding. Reminds me of the local middle school ice hockey team I heard about where they ended up having to make a rule that in order to attend the games, the parents had to attend an anger management/sportsmanship class. Not the kids, the parents. I am sure some of the dads would gladly have gotten onto the ice to show the opposing dads a lesson. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blw2 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 No wheelbarrows, I think those are prohibited by G2SS now. yeah, right! Forgot about that one... Hey, what about those new two wheeled wheel barrows? They look to be much more stable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stosh Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) I have a wheel barrow that can haul a 97# scout. Does that help? Don't cha just love it when everyone is so helpful? Edited January 25, 2016 by Stosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwazse Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 yeah, right! Forgot about that one... Hey, what about those new two wheeled wheel barrows? They look to be much more stable... Only as stable as the scouts' ability to avoid any mention of "chariot" and "race." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stosh Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Only as stable as the scouts' ability to avoid any mention of "chariot" and "race." Gee Mr. Smith, the little handle grippy things just came off and little Billy was in the wheelbarrow. See those trees down at the bottom of the hill by the river next to the cliff? The rest of the boys are down there looking for him right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAHAWK Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Gee Mr. Smith, the little handle grippy things just came off and little Billy was in the wheelbarrow. See those trees down at the bottom of the hill by the river next to the cliff? The rest of the boys are down there looking for him right now. As you know, they can do that sort of thing without wheels. 0___0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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