NJCubScouter Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 How one can one deny climate change? Where I sit was a mile deep in ice. When the ice melted the seas rose an estimated 100 meters. If you google "climate change is a hoax" you will find plenty of people you can argue with about it. Some of them are running for president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwazse Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 .... I thought Bear Grylls seemed a little starstruck, but that's ok. I was kind of surprised by the part about the fish, but I guess when you have no fishing equipment and you're on a tight production schedule, a fish that's already been half-eaten by a bear is the best you can do. (I guess I should also mention that I have never seen Grylls' show before, so maybe this happens all the time.) Both the gushing and the sub-Spartan meal are hallmarks of this series. He loves talking to and working with his guests on a personal and friendly level. This is why the Brits find him so well suited to "chief scout." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclops Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 (edited) Not exactly a denier, but I am skeptical about it. There is no question that climate change is happening and has happened thoughout earth's history and there is no question that human activity has contributed to these changes, but if you run the IPCC models (and this is something I can actually do) and factor in the various claptrap that passes for so-called 'solutions' you'll see that even the most implausible combinations of political agreement and self-discipline on the part of humanity throughout the planet have tiny positive outcomes on what is likely to happen. To me the most we can ask of ourselves is to understand what is about to happen to us and 'do our best' to 'be prepared' for it. Because, IMHO, 'it' is going to happen to us and there's almost nothing we are likely to do that will forestall 'it' even in the long term. We've been digging this hole for more than 200 years and we did it because we enjoyed the conveniences that our conspicuous consumption of resources provides. We are not easily going to set those aside and even if we did, the consequences are already set in motion and unlikely to reverse anytime soon. Physical characteristics at the planetary level cannot be altered as much as has happened over the last 200+ years without physical consequences. We need to 'get over' the fact that we've screwed up and prepare to take those well-deserved consequences. Edited December 25, 2015 by cyclops 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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