packsaddle Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Sentinel, which of those two alternatives is the good one? Edit: KenDavis, our CO replaced their 15 passenger vans with real buses about 13 years ago due to this issue. As others have noted, it's old news...BSA is, as usual, experiencing delayed development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouter99 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 BSA is' date=' as usual, experiencing delayed development.[/quote'] While we're all making up wild stories, I'm going to say that I infer that BSA waited and waited because they were experiencing a lot of anxiety about having to hear all this whining. So, since their insurance is secondary, anyway, they let the COs go ahead and do it to a lot of units first and now it's time for the roundup: all those privately owned vans in use and by God who is the BSA to tell me whether or not it's safe to use my 1987 van with its perfectly fine duct tape fuel line and square knot seat belts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoutldr Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 The latest trend in our state is to register your clunker as an "Antique vehicle" if it's more than 25 years old. Makes them exempt from state inspection, although they are not supposed to be routinely driven (which a lot of people ignore). It also makes it legal to park these junk heaps on the street. I also recently read an article that more and more states are doing away with annual vehicle inspections. I always found them to be a PITA, however it was a good way to monitor brake and tire wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2Eagle Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I also recently read an article that more and more states are doing away with annual vehicle inspections. I always found them to be a PITA' date=' however it was a good way to monitor brake and tire wear.[/quote'] I always found inspections a PITA, until I moved to a state that doesn't have them. I have seen 2x6s as bumpers and a gas tank tied on with nylon closthesline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basementdweller Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 This this effectively takes the outing out of scouting for my unit. While many of my family's have cars they are less road worthy than the CO's vans. Let's talk about insurance.....many of my family's do not have adequate insurance coverage Strangling the volunteers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAHAWK Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Is the choice between no drivers and drivers with "inadequate insurance" ? Inadequate as in limits below state minimums (at which BSA secondary coverage kicks in) or inadequate without BSA secondary coverage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoutldr Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 In my state, insurance is not required at all, as long as you pay a $400 "Uninsured motorist fee", which does not provide any insurance coverage. In all my years in Scouting, no one ever asked to see proof of insurance. When my financial advisor found out I was a Scouter volunteer, he highly recommended I purchase a blanket liability policy in addition to my car and homeowner's insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I'll have to bring this up to the PLC... My suggestion is one of these: http://www.mbsprinterusa.com/sprinter/passenger-van I figure it would only take around $150K of popcorn sales to get one nicely equipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSScout Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Can you find the "Oldsmobile" bus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoutldr Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 Bump. The deadline is nigh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John-in-KC Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 The deadline has passed. This is now in effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeptic Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 While I already have told the troop we can no longer use the church van, which is a 95 GMC, it is in the Tour Plan files already. Be interesting to see if it gets flagged should I mark the box. Have an outing coming up very soon, so will see what it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vumbi Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Most COs around here have dropped those vans long ago and gone with real buses. If we can't get the church bus for an outing we just pool it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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