Arrowman_69 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I understand most of the youth related awards are not to be worn on adult uniforms yet, I have found no details regarding skill awards and adult uniforms? What about formal occasions? Kindest regards Troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeCastor Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Welcome, Arrowman_69! Are you referring to the skill awards that went on the webbed belt during the 70s and 80s? If so, my advice to you would be to put them in a memory box. You could always present them to the Scouts you serve as a show and tell piece. They are youth awards and should be treated as such. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PbW Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 If I remember correctly, the only awards earned as youth that an adult can display a knot for is Arrow of Light, Eagle, Religious Award, and OA Membership (right pocket flap). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrowman_69 Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 I don't wear them, and yes they are in a box. Frankly I am put off by adults who overload their uniforms with patches, beads, and pins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle94-A1 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 #1 WELCOME TO THE FORUMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( and yes I'm yelling at ya ) #2 If memory serves, since you are in my era of Scouting you know how memory gets with age , Skill Awards were considered "Advancement," were "Restricted Items," and you needed an Advancement Report to get them. I remember what a pain it was to get replacements when I traded my belt with them on them. SM had to get replacements for me, at least the ones he could get his hands on. So they were designed for the youth. #3 Only adults I ever saw wearing Skill Awards, were those who just became adults, i.e. 18-19 year olds. My troop's policy was youth wore the green belts with the Skill Awards since it was advancement. Adults wore either the green belts, without the SAs, or leather belts. Most wore the leather belts, and one of the first things I did after my ECOH, was go and get a leather belt with an Eagle Buckle. #4 If you wear a current Eagle buckle, be careful as they break easily. I'm on #3 right now, and before last Monday haven't worn it in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stosh Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I don't wear them, and yes they are in a box. Frankly I am put off by adults who overload their uniforms with patches, beads, and pins. WHAT? You don't like the Banana Republic Dictator look when it comes to adult uniforms? Welcome to the forum! Stosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeattlePioneer Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Personally, I wear the "Recruiter" emblem. One of my main functions in Scouting is to recruit more boys. In theory, a powerful way to do that is to encourage boys to recruit boys. While that's been tough to do, I like to have the "Recruiter" patch handy where I can put my finger on it to use it as a device to enourage boys to invite a buddy. If other people had reasons to wear the odd youth badge, I wouldn;t object to that either. Generally though, I go by the no youth badge rule. Of course, there are "knots" to go on uniforms if you earned Eagle, Arrow of Light or a few other awards as a youth. Those are designed for adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAHAWK Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 You are not required to wear any recognition items on your uniform. This is the BSA guide on the subject. http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/33066_Section3.pdf Wearing of childrens' awards by adults is covered. You are allowed to wear the Eagle medal and Exploring Silver Award medal on "formal occasions." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSScout Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 If you are an adult, wear the adult uniform. The adult uniform should have adult type bling on it, not youth bling. I was asked to teach Wood Tools at an IOLS. The director asked if I would be teaching Totin' Chip, and I said I would be teaching the nascent SMs ABOUT Totin' Chip, and they would have an opportunity to do everything I would expect a Scout to do. She said, good, then I can award them their Totin' Chip badge on Sunday! I said, no, they cannot EARN the T/C because they are all adults. She said that was not right, these new SMs should be able to wear the badge as a sign of their competence and skill. I said, it is a YOUTH award, adults cannot wear it. Then I noticed the T/C on her shirt flap.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stosh Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 If you are an adult, wear the adult uniform. The adult uniform should have adult type bling on it, not youth bling. I was asked to teach Wood Tools at an IOLS. The director asked if I would be teaching Totin' Chip, and I said I would be teaching the nascent SMs ABOUT Totin' Chip, and they would have an opportunity to do everything I would expect a Scout to do. She said, good, then I can award them their Totin' Chip badge on Sunday! I said, no, they cannot EARN the T/C because they are all adults. She said that was not right, these new SMs should be able to wear the badge as a sign of their competence and skill. I said, it is a YOUTH award, adults cannot wear it. Then I noticed the T/C on her shirt flap.... It's a good thing adults don't have to have TC's.... I would lose mine within days because I always have a belt ax/sheath knife combo on while camping. Every time I get challenged for such a breach of protocol, I just challenge back. Who can bring back the most firewood in five minutes. You and your jack knife or me and my combo tools. I have never had anyone take me up on the challenge. By the way, it's a BSA belt ax/sheath knife combo. Stosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonG172 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Frankly I am put off by adults who overload their uniforms with patches, beads, and pins. WHY? Just like boys like to show off their recognition and so do adults. Boys just like adults look at these patches and say OHHH I want one, and go the patch to earn them and LEARN something along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeCastor Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 WHY? Just like boys like to show off their recognition and so do adults. Boys just like adults look at these patches and say OHHH I want one, and go the patch to earn them and LEARN something along the way. Jason, I don't want to answer for Arrowman; however, I share in the sentiment that an over-crowded uniform is a bit obnoxious, in my opinion. I would go so far as to say this is the same for youth. Sure, you've earned those awards and you have every right to wear all of them, but you don't have to. There's a point when an over-crowded uniform becomes bragging--in the eyes of some. I don't have the SM handbook in front of me so I will have to paraphrase a quote: there's no shame in wearing just your council strip, troop numeral(s), and badge of office. There are plenty of us who wear all the knots we have earned and then there are those of us who don't wear any knots at all. It's all a matter of choice. But to get back to the OP, skill awards don't belong on an adult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonG172 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 It's all a matter of choice. I do agree, but I shouldn't be looked down upon because I share my enthusiasm with the recognition's I have earned, 3 rows of knots is the limit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeCastor Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Just to be clear, Jason, I don't look down on you. What Arrowman was trying to say is not limited to the knot awards. (I don't think I was clear on that point when I wrote my post above.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonG172 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I am sure there are some REALLY over dooers, I am just not there yet and I haven't met anyone that IMO has over done it yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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