nextgenscouter1 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Recently a Troop in COL was evicted from their meeting place due to the new policy change, is this happening all over the country or is this just a few incidents? I also found a very interesting site, http://www.traillifeusa.com/ this is an alternative to the BSA do you think that this is stealing many boys or just a few? I personally find this new organization disturbing for many different reasons.The first is their oath which is a dead ringer of the boy scout, and then their "to respect authority" and then their accepting, any religion even for example a Muslim Wahabist but not allowing a Christian homosexual boy in. This was also one of my issues with BSA before they changed it. So my question is, what has the fallout been in your area due to policy change and will this new organization hurt the BSA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKdenldr Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Around here only a few BSA troops have been asked to find a new sponsor and they have been able to. Very quickly and usually right down the street. I've not heard about any trail life units forming locally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentinel947 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 I've only met two Scouts who went to a Trail Life unit. The gay issue was a cover for people dissatisfied with the BSA to start a strictly Christian. Youth group. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberSchiff Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 So far very few TLUSA have started around here - NH, MA. If the theory was that CO's who asked their BSA troop to leave would automatically replace with a TLUSA unit, that is not happening here. The BSA unit finds another sponsor and/or the scouts leave or find another troop. Seems the TLUSA units are being formed by disgruntled scouters who are finding they need to reach out over a larger geographic area for members. Just an observation, it has been less than a year since they started. My $0.02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwazse Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 A friend's grandkids are joining one down in TX. If his boy's any indication of the talent they're drawing, it's going to be a top-notch organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwazse Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 A friend's grandkids are joining one down in TX. If his boy's any indication of the talent they're drawing, it's going to be a top-notch organization.Oh, and they don't have any policy explicitly excluding homosexual boys from membership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrinator Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 The first is their oath which is a dead ringer of the boy scout What's wrong with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudu Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 A friend of mine is hosting a "Trail Life USA Town Meeting" this Wednesday at 6 PM at the church which hosts our BSA Troop. I plan to attend. The name "Trail Life" is promising but the slogan "Adventure, Character, and Leadership" is troublesome, since the BSA has used the slogan "Character and Leadership" to explain why they took the Adventure (and the "Real Patrol" Method) out of Scouting in 1972. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouter99 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 A friend of mine is hosting a "Trail Life USA Town Meeting" this Wednesday at 6 PM at the church which hosts our BSA Troop. I plan to attend. The name "Trail Life" is promising but the slogan "Adventure, Character, and Leadership" is troublesome, since the BSA has used the slogan "Character and Leadership" to explain why they took the Adventure (and the "Real Patrol" Method) out of Scouting in 1972. You should challenge him to a duel or at least a knot-tying relay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouter99 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 We've lost one CO that I know of and a few district people resigned post-vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentinel947 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 A friend of mine is hosting a "Trail Life USA Town Meeting" this Wednesday at 6 PM at the church which hosts our BSA Troop. I plan to attend. The name "Trail Life" is promising but the slogan "Adventure, Character, and Leadership" is troublesome, since the BSA has used the slogan "Character and Leadership" to explain why they took the Adventure (and the "Real Patrol" Method) out of Scouting in 1972. Or join them since the BSA drives you up a wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrinator Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 I find the Trail Life oath rather lacking, myself. There's no mention of helping others or of obeying the Law. Indeed, I can't really tell whether they have a Law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nextgenscouter1 Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 A friend's grandkids are joining one down in TX. If his boy's any indication of the talent they're drawing, it's going to be a top-notch organization.I took this to mean they wouldn't allow in homosexual boys. "The basis for the program’s ethical and moral standards is found in the Bible. In terms of sexual identification and behavior, we affirm that any sexual activity outside the context of the covenant of marriage between one man and one woman is sinful before God and therefore inconsistent with the values and principles of the program. Within these limits, we grant membership to adults and youth who do not engage in or promote sexual immorality of any kind" Maybe I misunderstood this. However, if we follow the reasons that this is why they left the BSA and the quote above, then I would think otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nextgenscouter1 Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 So for all purposes this organization was created, by people who already wished to leave and make a more faith based organization. Following that then they policy change was just an excuse to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huzzar Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Trail Life doesn't appear to be growing where I live. There are no units within 50 miles as best I can tell. I think they'll end up about the size of American Heritage Girls, which has the same outlook as they do. Just another choice for a kid's time, no great threat to BSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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