JoeBob Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 It would have taken longer to break all the links or make all the reservations services "unavailable" for all the things you can get a permit for online-- than it took to just take the site offline and plug in a redirect to the dept of the interior.I see your point on the reservation services, especially if this goes long term. Can you give me insight into the logic of having 7 personnel to guard the barricades they set up to close the monuments in DC that usually have 5 police doing nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berliner Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 National Forest offices are closed but the trails are still available. Put away the tent shelters, dutch ovens, and Winnebagos. Pick up a backpack and do some real outdoor adventure. As for the closed parks, nice - the wildlife can use a 'breather'.All what NeverAnEagle said in short: Leave no trace. If there is no evidence ... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeBob Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Over-reach theatre: http://www.infowars.com/barrycades-government-tries-to-shut-down-privately-owned-mount-vernon/ In some cases, efforts to shut down these sites actually require more manpower and resources than if they had been left open, highlighting the fact that this is an act of partisan theater by the Obama administration to pin the blame for the government shutdown on Republicans and opponents of Obamacare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stosh Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Over-reach theatre: http://www.infowars.com/barrycades-government-tries-to-shut-down-privately-owned-mount-vernon/ In some cases, efforts to shut down these sites actually require more manpower and resources than if they had been left open, highlighting the fact that this is an act of partisan theater by the Obama administration to pin the blame for the government shutdown on Republicans and opponents of Obamacare. When one visits Gettysburg, they couldn't find a park employee to save one's life, but now that it is closed, they are all over the place enforcing the barricades. This is only a political ploy that common sense Americans can see right through. Stosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewmeister Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 We do the grand canyon veteran's day weekend in November. Hopefully it's figured out by then!!Sounds like it's time for some civil disobedience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewmeister Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 All the state parks in Wisconsin are open and no government in the way of having a great time. They are really gorgeous this time of year, too. Stosh The feds also told Wisconsin to shut down some jointly managed federal properties, and the state proceeded to tell the feds where they could put that idea. Unfortunately I'm guessing that the vast expanse of the Nicolet and Chequamegon forests are closed to camping, although not all of the parks have gates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewmeister Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Over-reach theatre: http://www.infowars.com/barrycades-government-tries-to-shut-down-privately-owned-mount-vernon/ In some cases, efforts to shut down these sites actually require more manpower and resources than if they had been left open, highlighting the fact that this is an act of partisan theater by the Obama administration to pin the blame for the government shutdown on Republicans and opponents of Obamacare. Add to that the fact that many monuments and other open-air spaces are "closed" for the first time ever as a result of a government shutdown. Clearly there is a deliberate effort to inflict the maximum pain.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stosh Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier and National War Memorial in Ottawa are open to the public. It is located across the street to Parliament Hill right downtown and there are no fences, no ticket booths, no security. All one has to do is cross the street, sit down on one of the many benches and remember. If they ever shut down their government, no one at the memorial would even notice. Stosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basementdweller Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 National Forest offices are closed but the trails are still available. Put away the tent shelters, dutch ovens, and Winnebagos. Pick up a backpack and do some real outdoor adventure. As for the closed parks, nice - the wildlife can use a 'breather'.So how long does it take to break a habituated bear of mini bears???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR540Beaver Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Heard one of my state's Representatives on the radio this morning saying that he often goes to the Jefferson Memorial at night to do his reading. He says they have 3 staff people at most on site. They had 7 guards turning people away. Figure that one out. It's Obama's punitive political theatre. It's like a little kid with a scratch flailing on the floor and wailing that his arm is cut off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ding Dong Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Or one could take the opinion that we need increased security because times like these fire up the wing nuts and they start doing really stupid things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeBob Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Or one could take the opinion that we need increased security because times like these fire up the wing nuts and they start doing really stupid things.True, Right Wing Nuts can be provoked by Left Wing Nuts. The rhetorical vitriol just fuels the insanity. 1- With the debt ceiling approaching... OOPS! Wrong forum. I should have realized that the discussion in here was being too logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stosh Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Heard one of my state's Representatives on the radio this morning saying that he often goes to the Jefferson Memorial at night to do his reading. He says they have 3 staff people at most on site. They had 7 guards turning people away. Figure that one out. It's Obama's punitive political theatre. It's like a little kid with a scratch flailing on the floor and wailing that his arm is cut off.Like the WWII vets in DC were all that worried about the extra guards at the WWII Memorial? Once more people stand up to the bullies, they will back down, they always do. With more and more people into Conceal Carry, it could get ugly really fast. If one person walks through a barricade, they will start something. If 50 walk through a barricade, they'll stand there, smile and say, "Have a nice day." The WWII vets went up against hundreds of thousands Germans and Japanese. A lone guard at the barricade at the Memorial? Yeah, right, that's going to stop them. Stosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiker67 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Fox News calls it both a "shutdown" and a "slimdown." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpalazzi Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 It would have taken longer to break all the links or make all the reservations services "unavailable" for all the things you can get a permit for online-- than it took to just take the site offline and plug in a redirect to the dept of the interior.Government efficiency. Let's spend 2-3x the funds to keep people OUT. Makes a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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