ParacordMan1220 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Since National really doesn't have very high uniform standards, I want to see if anyone has "improved" or incorporated things like "shoulder cords" (like the military wears in dress uniforms), different hats (Berets, Garrison caps, Boonie hats, etc.), and anything else that looks good and/or serves a purpose. I am wanting to start some new award systems to strike some interest with the scouts of my troop, like the "Knot Ninja" program that many others are starting (just do a quick google search to learn more). So, If you guys have any ideas and/or pictures of uniform ideas, post them up! Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papadaddy Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Um no. Just no. There is enough "customization" going on, and frankly most of it looks ridiculous. Sounds like you're in the business and looking for marketing ideas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeptic Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Not sure where you would get the idea there is no standard. That is pretty much what the Uniform and Insignia Guide is all about I think. It is on line, so you do not have to have a hard copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I just looked at a Knot Ninja site and frankly found it ridiculous for older boys, right up there with still awarding beads for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParacordMan1220 Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 Um no. Just no. There is enough "customization" going on, and frankly most of it looks ridiculous. Sounds like you're in the business and looking for marketing ideas.No, not in business. I am just wanting to see what other troops have done to improve the scout uniform. For example, the BSA Ball Cap: Looks stupid and doesn't really serve a practical purpose. It is part of the uniform however, and some scouts wear it, some scouts don't, which cancels out uniformity. To get more scouts to wear hats, pick a new one and make it part of the uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParacordMan1220 Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 Not sure where you would get the idea there is no standard. That is pretty much what the Uniform and Insignia Guide is all about I think. It is on line, so you do not have to have a hard copy.Well their standards are extremely relaxed. No grooming standards, etc., ect. Not to mention that no one really enforces the rules and regs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParacordMan1220 Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 I just looked at a Knot Ninja site and frankly found it ridiculous for older boys, right up there with still awarding beads for everything.It's just the concept. No one HAS to use beads and stupid crap like that. You can use whatever you want; different color cords, "paracord ranger beads," etc. A plus to using the paracord ranger beads is that you can use them as pace counters to measure distances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Not sure where you would get the idea there is no standard. That is pretty much what the Uniform and Insignia Guide is all about I think. It is on line, so you do not have to have a hard copy.It's Scouts! Not the Marine Corps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basementdweller Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Um no. Just no. There is enough "customization" going on, and frankly most of it looks ridiculous. Sounds like you're in the business and looking for marketing ideas.I don't care if my guys wear a hat or not...... I am just happy if their uniform has our unit number on it and their current rank.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basementdweller Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I just looked at a Knot Ninja site and frankly found it ridiculous for older boys, right up there with still awarding beads for everything.A cub scout Troop..... How very adult led.......While that might seem like a good thing to you...........TO me not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParacordMan1220 Posted September 15, 2013 Author Share Posted September 15, 2013 I just looked at a Knot Ninja site and frankly found it ridiculous for older boys, right up there with still awarding beads for everything.While I am not an adult leader, I am still a scout leader. I think it is a good way to tell who can teach knot tying by simply looking at their lanyard, instead of spending a lot of time asking questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParacordMan1220 Posted September 15, 2013 Author Share Posted September 15, 2013 Not sure where you would get the idea there is no standard. That is pretty much what the Uniform and Insignia Guide is all about I think. It is on line, so you do not have to have a hard copy.I guess you don't take scouts as seriously as I do.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwazse Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I just looked at a Knot Ninja site and frankly found it ridiculous for older boys, right up there with still awarding beads for everything.A first-class scout is qualified to take his patrol hiking and camping. That would include teaching the essential knots, fire starting, and orienteering among other skills. So, I don't ask questions, I just look for the boys with that rank and expect them to live up to it. That said, I'm not against the boys coming up with their own systems of recognition, as long as the entire troop is amenable to it and the cost isn't ridiculous. It's just that our boys have made it very clear that they prefer a very utilitarian field uniform. Unfortunately, that excludes neckerchiefs. The boys voted against them more than two decades ago (about the time national started sizing them so small as to be little more than diagonally sliced hankies) and haven't worn them since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParacordMan1220 Posted September 15, 2013 Author Share Posted September 15, 2013 I just looked at a Knot Ninja site and frankly found it ridiculous for older boys, right up there with still awarding beads for everything.It would be good if all scouts would do/act the way we'd expect them to, but sadly that doesn't always happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basementdweller Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Not sure where you would get the idea there is no standard. That is pretty much what the Uniform and Insignia Guide is all about I think. It is on line, so you do not have to have a hard copy.how sad for your scouts. You do understand that it supposed to be boy led Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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