Twocubdad Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Perhaps the appeal was turned down and MD is disgusted with Scouting, us included. Or maybe it's gone legal and her lawyer told her not to post anything else. Who knows? I'd like to hear the conclusion of the story, too, but MD is nder no obligation to provide it. Just another risk of life in cyberspace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evmori Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 I do know midsummer started posting this in another forum before she showed up here. There is something more to this story than we know and I would bet there never was an appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljnrsu Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Ev and vol_scouter, I can corroborate mdsummer45s story. In a PM I offered my help in assisting her, which she accepted and between May 19 and Sept 2 we each exchanged in excess of 50 emails and more than a few phone conversations. She also faxed me copies of Troop, District and Council letters of denial. I also know by name another member of the forums that also assisted her in critiquing and editing Justins appeal to National. Mdsummer called me on Dec 2 after getting off the phone with National. At which time she informed me that the appeal was still sitting at National waiting to be given to the Appeal Committee and that the earliest would be mid Jan before she received a response from National. Am not that surprised that appeals take this long considering the turnaround for our Troops Eagle applications. Our last EBOR was Nov 4 Council called Dec 15 that Eagle packet could be picked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAKWIB Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 ljnrsu, Many thanks for posting that update. Although I never posted anything on this thread because I have had no experience or exposure to such an involved process, I have read through the entire thing starting when it first began last spring. She got a lot of great advice from many here. Also, I am sure she got a bit weary of reading how she was holding things back, how her son may have been "worse" than her posts suggested, and here lately, of how she is simply an "attention junkie." Hopefully you or her can let us know the outcome when it comes to pass. I'm sure she greatly appreciates you taking the time to personally help her and her son through this challenging episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vol_scouter Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 ljnrsu, Thank you for the confirmation and the update. I certainly hope that the issue is resolved correctly soon. I would think that it could be March or April before a definitive decision has been rendered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evmori Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 I have never heard of appeals lasting this long! There must be something holding this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr56 Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Wow. I sure hope this turns out well. I wonder why this had to even go to National. Sounds like a slam dunk to me. I guess the District and Council are just too close to the unit, and don't want to ruffle any feathers, so to speak. I guess all we can do is wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nldscout Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Well I for one don't beleive this story one bit. This is nothing but a crock. Appeals don't take that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSScout Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Anybody know if there is an appropriate Guinness Book category? Waiting music theme from "Jeopardy" dumdedumdum dumdedummmm, dumdedumdumDUM, dedededede, dumdedumdum dumdedum, DUM, dedede, dum, dum, dum, (bum bum). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrp1488 Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 ljnrsu, You can only corroborate what mdsummer has told you. Nothing has been posted from the Troop, District or Council's side other than the assumptions made by Beavah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle732 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 I sincerely doubt that the Troop, District or Council would make any comments here on this situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadenP Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 31 pages of this nonsense, when will it ever end? Does anyone really even care anymore? Time to put this fictional topic out of its misery, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavah Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 I also know by name another member of the forums that also assisted her in critiquing and editing Justins appeal to National. Yah, let me just say that it starts to get just a bit ridiculous when out-of-council people start helpin' lads and situations they don't know because they've become internet pen pals. Next we'll have forum members critiquing and editing boys' Eagle project writeups or merit badge presentations. An appeal should be written by and reflect da character, judgment, and point of view of those who are a party to the action. That's part of how folks hearin' the appeal make an informed decision, by understanding how those involved view and present their position. It shouldn't be somethin' where district officials or yellow-tabbers from 5 states away start crafting language and coaching litigants in what to say on the stand. Shame on yeh both for doin' that. Mdsummer's council has a lot of good people and fine scouters in it. If her son needed/merited help and support it was available without the two of you castin' aspersions on the decisions of fellow scouters from afar. Serve yeh right if the whole thing was a sham. Beavah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle732 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 And if its not a sham? I wonder if the apologies will come a quickly as the criticism has. Just a thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavah Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 And if it's not a sham it's still inappropriate for scouters from several states away to insert themselves into the process, and they still should feel chagrined for doin' so. Especially scouters who hold silver or yellow-tabbed positions who should know better. Beavah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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