What is better: Chief Scout Executive or President of BSA?

[Senior_Patrol_Leader_T15]

But it says that Boyce started the BSA, and then it says that Seton started BSA? Which one actually started it, and what position did Boyce have after it's creation?

 

And, is the a Chief Scout anymore, like Seton?

 

And again, is there any place online that might tell of the successors of each?

[Bob White]

Boyce published the handbook and established the charter with the US Congress.

 

Beard and Seton americanized some of the elements of Baden-Powell's concept, and Seton is largely responsible for the original advancement program especially the creation of the merit badges program.

 

West created the BSA administration structure of the professional service and raised the fundind needed to insure the growth of the organization and its ability to serve more youth.

 

W.D. Boyce is credited as the founder since he brought the handbook here and started Lone Scouts. In the later years he grew annoyed by the scouts requesting funding and participation from him and he basically separated himself from the program.

 

Bob White

 

 

[Senior_Patrol_Leader_T15]

Oh,

 

So then Boyce created it, and Seton reinitialized it. Ok, so then, again is their a Chief Scout position anymore? And did Boyce ever proclaim himself any position?

 

Any I'm still looking for sites telling of who took over each national position after one left.

[NWScouter]

In the United States Seaton had established a group for boys called Woodcraft Indians and Daniel Beard another group called Sons of Daniel Boone. Bread was the first National Commissioner and William F. Rick Cronk is the present one. Seaton was the only Chief Scout.. Here is a site that has a lot of information on Seaton: http://www.scoutingmilestones.freeserve.co.uk/ Then you are going to have to click on the go to the Milestones index. Then down to Early Influences and click on Ernest Thompson Seton an American viewpoint. I could not get a address from the page, sorry.

 

[Bob White]

Not quite. This is going to be tough to explain in a bulletin board SPL you need to go to the library to get the entire story it is quite complicated. By the way did you read the handbook yet?

 

Boyce did not invent scouting, Robert Baden-Powell did. Boyce was a publisher from Chicago, Il. who went to London to meet with Powell and secure the publishing rights for Powell's book Scouting for Boys. He then worked with Beard and Seton to create another book (remember this is the 2nd largest publisher of his time) for what he called Lone Scouts.

 

No, Seton was the only Chief Scout. He directed the program as a volunteer for one year, after which he was instrumental in hiring West as the first Chief Scout Executive. West created the councils and professional scouting to raise funds, recruit volunteers and start units.

 

But there are books written about and by all these men that will answer your questions more accurately and with greater flair.

 

Happy reading,

Bob white(This message has been edited by Bob White)

[Senior_Patrol_Leader_T15]

So then Boyce was not the sole creater of BSA?

 

Who were all on our first National Council?

[Bob White]

SPL

Your curiosity is commendable but your methodology is in need of improvement.

 

You need to visit the library not an Internet bulletin board.

BW

[Senior_Patrol_Leader_T15]

Sorry

 

Our library is no good.

 

I'm finding this out because I'm going to make a book, for the scouts, and then question them at the begining of the day and the end of the day to see which patrol read the history notes. The winning patrol get my totem to put on their flag until the next camp-out.

[Bob White]

Then consider having them read the portion in the handbook on the history of the program and questioning them on that.

 

BW