OldGreyEagle Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 It's not any Venturing thing that I know about, and I have done Venturing for 4 years and earned Poweder Horn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advisor Jim Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 We established our Venturing crew in Aug.,2000 things I have learned, do not use the same committee as your troop do not have meetings on the same night do not use troop eqipment treat your Venturing Crew as a seperate unit from the troop do not use Troop leadership for Crew leadership. but keep in contact and do things with the troop if they want you to. this way you do not have conflicts of interests. this is my opinion, we tried it the other way and found out it just doesn't work Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior_Patrol_Leader_T15 Posted October 29, 2003 Author Share Posted October 29, 2003 JLT means Junior Leadership Training, its a Boy Scout thing. And im sorry, we wear uniforms at our school, so I would be suspened if I did, and that wouldnt be scout like now would it? About the Bronze Award, our Council knows we do it because we are very well known within the council, and they've seen me a plenty of times, and they havent said anything yet. And here are my answers to Advisor Jim's statements: We wont use the same exact committee We are not having them on the same night, or that ruin a couple of us Sorry, we are a poor troop, and limited supplies, so we have to use troop equipments, but troop always has first call to use of equipment We are, but a number will be the same since the Cub Scouts are also the same number and we dont want to ruin tradition Our Scoutmaster will be our Male Advisor, and a troop committee member will be the female Advisor There we go, reply soon, usually it takes you guys days to reply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGreyEagle Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 So even though you have only been a member of a Venture Patrol, which is part of the Boy Scout program, and you will be awarded a Bronze award, which is part of the Venturing Program and no one sees a problem? Its amazing what good people can do with a good program with good intentions. SPL_T15 I can offer no advice but have fun, doesnt seem like the rules get your guys way of having fun, and maybe all of life should be more like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 I know what JLT is and I know what JLTC is. I even thought I knew what a ticket was. Until you mentioned it that you did it for JLT, at that point I was even more confused than I usually am. How do you work a ticket into a day long training event? How many items are on your ticket. What type of items are on our ticket? Do you choose up patrols for JLT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDHII Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 It's good that your troop and your Venturers have taken JLT. However, JLT is a Scouting training program and focuses primarily on Boy Scoutng. I would recommend that your crew participate in a Venturing Leadership Skills Cource (VLSC), usually held by the Venturing Officers' Association (VOA) in your council. Most VOAs hold VLSCs twice a year, once in the spring and fall. If your VOA has a Kodiak program (think of it as a week or 2 week long VLSC), I strongly recommend that you attend. You'll learn about all of the awards and the new Quest sports award. Plus, VLSC training is a requirement for the Silver Award. For your adult leaders, have them visit the Venturing Fast Start site provided by National Council: http://www.scouting.org/venturing/faststart/index.html Dale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior_Patrol_Leader_T15 Posted October 30, 2003 Author Share Posted October 30, 2003 First, My JLT Course was a week long, as I said I was a Beaver, and on my ticket were the 11 basic leadership skills. And, yea, we our numer one rule in our crew and troop is to have fun. And yea, after we hold our experience camp-out, everyone who joins will all attend a VLSC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 I believe that you where at JLTC. Junior Leader Training Conference. JLT Junior Leader Training, is a day long training, that is done within the troop. I "staffed" JLTC this year (I use staff very loosely, because I did almost nothing for a week. The Scouts that where staffers where great!) And we did nothing with a ticket. Which is why I was asking. I will have to get out the training manual to see if we missed this item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FScouter Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 The terms being mentioned by Senior_Patrol_Leader_T15 in the context of the JLT Conference are terms used in the White Stag program. Silver Stag is an award, Beaver is a patrol name, "ticket" is a Leadership Growth Agreement", and the 11 leadership skills are part of the basic leadership program. White Stag shares commonalities with JLTC, and with Woodbadge, but they are not the same thing. White Stag is a 6 year program. It is not a BSA program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior_Patrol_Leader_T15 Posted November 5, 2003 Author Share Posted November 5, 2003 It's official title was: White Stag Junior Leader Conference. Also, I have another question, i have moved to another area in my parish, but i still attend my current troop. But where I live a new troop has formed with only 6 members, a they want me to double-register and also be there Senior Patrol Leader. Also, where I live now, there is a club called ICP, which focuses on the Wildlife Reervation, but they are registered as a Venturing Crew. Can I double-register, or will I have to pick one or the other. See, the new troop knows of my expertise in that area, and they want me to join, since im two merit badges from eagle, to let people ow that there troop has an Eagle in it, and the ICP is very, very populated, but I don't want to live my Crew, since I'm a founding member. Also, something to think about.... In the Scout Law, it says a Scout "is" But in the Scout Oath, it says you will "try your best" to follow the Scout Law. Now if a scout must follow the Scout Law as said by the Scout Law, then when you say I'll do my best to obey the Scout Law, Then what are you truely saying. I'll tell you the answer in my next post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KA6BSA Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 At first I thought this was just a really scary example of SPL_T15 knowing only bits and pieces of how to run a real BSA program and then improvising the rest with no real supervision... making it up as they go along and not knowing any better. A completely bottomless pit of needing endless help and advice from Scouters Who Know. But as I reflect on it I have started suspecting that Senior_Patrol_Leader_T15 is not actually a young Boy Scout, but an adult with quite some BSA experience who thinks this is a really fun way to get everyone going around the mulberry bush with the rules and regs. I am especially impressed SPL_T15 keeps responding to the posts and amping up the issues and questions to an even more ridiculous level. Any normal kid would not be interested or make the effort spending that much time typing to a bunch of adults. Anybody else think this is a setup identity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGreyEagle Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 I think SPL_15 is for real based on his responses to other threads of this forum. However, thats not to say he couldnt be a fraud, we have had them in here before. Then again, I could be a fraud as well, we may never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior_Patrol_Leader_T15 Posted November 22, 2003 Author Share Posted November 22, 2003 KA6BSA..... What do you have against me. I've told everyone my age my troop, and god knows what else. Am I going to have to tell our website so you can see im really who i say i am. Also, how would you know what a normal kid would and would not do? Are you 14? Not everyone is the same. Im more mature than other 14 yr. old teens, thats it. Thank you OGE for defending me. Also all you other men and women who have shown me consideration and respect. Had to say some self then delete it off, that was the edited part.(This message has been edited by Senior_Patrol_Leader_T15) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hops_scout Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 I would like to see your website just for the heck of it. You can find ours at http://www.troop323.cjb.net It isnt very good, but it is there. oh and one more thing, God is always capitalized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior_Patrol_Leader_T15 Posted November 23, 2003 Author Share Posted November 23, 2003 Well, do you like it hops_scout? BTW, what rank are you? Also, your web-site is better than mine, mine is pop-up Heaven!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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