Goodbye, Owasippe

[SSScout]

 

 

Ummm?

[Jschlich]

Owasippe operated 6 weeks of camp in 2008. Opened 6/29. Last day was 8/9.

 

 

[LongHaul]

The Board of Directors for the Chicago Area Council have voted to terminate the contract to sell Owasippe Scout Reservation. The sale will formally be terminated when both parties have signed the agreement to terminate the contract. CAC has spent some 1M dollars seeking to rezone the 4700 acres so that it could be developed. Volunteers and Scouts of CAC wait with held breath. A Scout is Tenacious!

 LongHaul

[nldscout]

I hope they continue the appeal to answer the question if the land was improperly zoned. No one knows what the future may bring

[Jschlich]

nldscout -

 

Will you be the first to underwrite the expense of such action?

 

There has already been $1-million spent by the Chicago Council with the result being that the court ruled in favor the township.

 

Perhaps with your underwriting the Council can spend it's dollars on programming and leave the legal expenses of appealing a court decision to those who want to donate for that purpose.

[anarchist]

just a question in passing...

 

Have the CO's started hanging board members heads on pikes yet?

Just interested in seeing if the folks who wasted all this time and effort will pay for their malfiesance?

anarchist

 

[Jschlich]

anarchist -

 

There has been several years of rank and file membership objection.

 

Over the past few years the COR's have not elected the board slates that have been proposed. Currently the Board that sits is one that was selected through the BSA Central Region office. Also, the current SE has been appointed by BSA National to administer the Council.

 

Not sure that heads are on pikes but there are many who set out down this course no longer a part of the Board. A hand few of those who voted to go down this course are still around but seem to have flip-flopped.

[SSScout]

Is there any local publicity or editorial comment? How "known" is this in the Chicago area?

 

[David CO]

Yesterday, a Scout was selling popcorn outside my local Walgreens, and for the first time, I didn't buy any. I felt a little bad about not supporting the Scout and his Troop, but I will not support the Chicago Area Council.

[shortridge]

From the Muskegon Chronicle, Sept. 28, 2008:

 

Boy Scouts want out of Owasippe land deal

Chicago Boy Scouts are trying to get out of a purchase agreement for the Owasippe Scout Reservation that sparked a zoning lawsuit and fears that the pristine property would be turned into residential subdivisions.

http://www.mlive.com/news/chronicle/index.ssf?/base/news-15/1222596916279410.xml&coll=8

[nldscout]

Regardless of getting out of the Smith deal, CAC should go forward with the appeal. The issue needs to be settled as to was the rezoning proper or not.

 

It will make things better in the future.

 

I also beleive that if the scouters at CAC had not blinked when national tried to bully them, this mess would have been over long ago.

[Jschlich]

nldscout -

 

I ask again. Will you be the first to underwrite the expense of such action?

 

There has already been $1-million spent by the Chicago Council with the result being that the court ruled in favor the township. I suggest that the feelings of many about the CAC is reflected in the above comment concerning popcorn.

 

Perhaps starting with your underwriting the Council can spend it's dollars on programming and leave the legal expenses of appealing a court decision to those who want to donate for the purpose of the appeal.

 

Much seems to be happening that can cure the ills of CAC so why not let it evolve as it will?

 

[nldscout]

If they don't continue the appeal then if 5 or 10 yrs from now they want to do something that the Township does not like, it will be too late for CAC to challange them.

 

As to the first decision, there is a good chance of having that overturned on appeal, once the local flavor is taken out of the court process.

 

As to donating to CAC, feel free, I donate to my council, want to give us some of your money?

[Jschlich]

It is a pleasure to pass the word that the sales agreement for the Chicago Council to sell the Owasippe property has been terminated.

 

Also, a Stipulation And Order Of Dismissal [with prejudice] has been agreed to between the Chicago Council and the Township concerning the zoning issues that have been in court.

 

Several years of grass roots effort by many has been recognized by these actions of the Chicago Council.

 

The complete message from the Council President can be found at www.chicagobsa.org.

 

[gpronger]

I have just returned from Owasippe's 100th Celebration. At this point CAC (via the new Exec) is firmly behind Owasippe for another 100 years. They have added more sessions for Webelos summer camp using Carlen(unofficially Camp Carlen appears to be their new location for their Webelos summercamp). They are planning on expanding the number of Webelos sessions next year. As they work that part of the program they should see increased attendance at Troop level increasing their overall numbers.