Eagle_23 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 In the wake of a couple impending Broken Arrow Ceremonies, it got me thinking about the way they are done and how the ceremonies are set up. When and where do other lodges hold Broken Arrow ceremonies and what type of regalia do other lodges use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDPT00 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 I've never heard of it, and I'll make sure to put in my funeral instructions that it not to be used for me. BDPT00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGreyEagle Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Eagle23 check the safeguarded discussions, I have a link there(This message has been edited by OldGreyEagle) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortridge Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 I'd never heard of it, either. While well-intentioned, it disturbs me slightly that some of the homemade ceremonies out there use the principals in roles outside the actual ceremonies of the Order. That's supposed to be a no-no. A simple remembrance, without the hoopla of a ceremony, would certainly suffice in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle92 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Short, My understanding is that it is permissible to use the 4 principles n ceremonies other than those used at the Ordeal. yo just cannot use their names and titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDPT00 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 I seriously doubt that this would pass muster with the national committee. BDPT00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortridge Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 The ceremony which appears to be the most popular (based on a Google search) uses two of the principals, and identifies them by name to the audience. That's what caught my eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilEagle04 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Eale is right about the use outside of the official ceremonies. We have Arrow of Light and Crossover ceremonies written up in case a troop in the Council wants that kind of thing. National has known about it in the past, and there were no issues.(This message has been edited by vigileagle04) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortridge Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Not to go off-topic, but if you don't use the names or titles, how are they still the principals? Then, to the audience, they're just generic people in regalia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilEagle04 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Well, to the Arrowmen present, they will recognize who they are. To those who are not familiar with it, they will see it as a ceremony for something they are not familiar with, but which the other person was a part of. You can still convey an excellent OA-like message in this manner. AoL and Crossover ceremonies are a bit different, but I've had many comments about how much they enjoyed them, and we get lots of questions. For those, it's awesome, because it sparks that intrigue early on. For the Broken Arrow thing, it's not as much for the audience as it is for the person being remembered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SctDad Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 I had the privilege of attending one of these ceremonies when one of our young arrowman lost his life a few months ago. It was a very well put together ceremony and there were very few dry eyes in the arena. It was something that made the young mans father proud that he was part of such a great organization. I do not recall if there were any names of those in the ceremony used, but in my opinion it does not really matter. The ceremony paid honor and respects to a young man who gave everything that he could to the OA and had actually just been elected to Section Chief 2 Weeks before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilEagle04 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I heard about that loss,it was a sad day. Being a brother here in SR-7A, the loss of Michael struck us close to home. Glad to hear they did it proper for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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