Fat Old Guy Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 I've read something that said that we should attempt to keep our uniforms as uncluttered as possible but yet BSA keeps adding patches to the uniform. Why is the OA flap needed at all? Membership in OA can be shown by the nifty little arrow on a ribbon. What lodge a person is in can be deduced, in most cases, by their CSP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisely Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 So people will have something to trade at conclaves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purcelce Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 "What lodge a person is in can be deduced, in most cases, by their CSP." Then why have CSPs? I know what council I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Old Guy Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 "Then why have CSPs? I know what council I'm in." So that people will have something to trade at Jamborees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR540Beaver Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Heck, if you're going to wear a uniform; you may as well have something to hang on it. We'd all look pretty silly just wearing green pants and tan shirts without any identifying marks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Bear Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Disclaimer: This response was not meant to stir great controversy or to send people spiraling off into fits of rage and argumentation. Treat this with the same consideration you would if a fly was in your soup. Swallow it politely and go about your business. Here are ten good reasons: 1. The prettier the patch the greater the trading value, the higher the praise, the greater the glory. A little ribbon hung neatly over a button tells people nothing of the person underneath. 2. Some people read a uniform like others read a book. To take it away would deplete the story by one or two chapters. Those lost chapters may be small to some of us but to others, they are the book. 3. The little ribbons were made as a decoration to enhance the patch. If you only use the decoration, then people might get the wrong idea about what you are trying to do. 4. Many people like to announce that they are in the O.A. If you took their patch away, then they would have nothing to announce, especially since they most likely are inactive. 5. The O.A. patch is a symbol of great sacrifice. Staying one night in the wilds, means you are fearless and intrepid, probably an explorer. The patch proves it. 6. What would the patch collectors do at Jamborees if you took away their pretties? They might resort to other avenues of expression less than desirable. 7. The BSA would have to look at other sources of revenue. This act of taking away the OA flap might generate a new flap over, where is the dough? 8. Some patch collectors may make a collection of a ribbon. You would visit them and they would take out a little box and show you their ribbon and exclaim with pride that it took over thirty minutes to complete it. You might have to learn a new skill of muffling a roar of laughter, not a sight we would like to consider. 9. You would essentially lose years of Scouting history without patches. Patches are like footprints in the sand of time, showing us what we stepped in. 10. What is the real worth of a patch? Please consult your Scout Collectors guide for current values. FB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Old Guy Posted January 24, 2004 Author Share Posted January 24, 2004 "1. The prettier the patch the greater the trading value, the higher the praise, the greater the glory. A little ribbon hung neatly over a button tells people nothing of the person underneath." A pretty patch tells people nothing of the person underneath. "7. The BSA would have to look at other sources of revenue. This act of taking away the OA flap might generate a new flap over, where is the dough?" Probably the most valid point of all. "10. What is the real worth of a patch?" Since they don't make good bandages or fire starters, they have little real worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainron14 Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 Fuzzy Bear, that was great! I think the reason is #9 Scouting History. Lodge Flaps are supposed to tell about the Lodge, it's history, the local, area, etc. Just like the CSP are. A great example are the CSPs from some Southern Councils which had the Confederate Flag in the design (not PC).:>) History. Also Why? $$$$$$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KA6BSA Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Without OA flaps the boys could wear their Totin' Chip pocket flap and nobody would have anything to argue about where it goes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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