evmori Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 If the council exec committee approved the hoagie sale, you would still be in the same boat. If someone is gonna sue, they are gonna sue regardless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob White Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Once again .. The difference is between having permission to represent the BSA and not having permission. If you do not wear the BSA uniforms, or use the BSA's name or symbols to show connection to the BSA, and someone gets hurt on YOUR hoagie then YOU might get sued, but that is the risk YOU accepted when deciding to sell hoagies to the public. But since the BSA was not connected to the product or activity then YOU cannot cause the BSA to be included in YOUR legal problem.(This message has been edited by Bob White) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evmori Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 You make a good point, Bob, but if your scenario happens, an attorney will find out the hoagies sold were to benefit a BSA unit & the BSA will be sued. And since the Money-Unit Earning Application was approved by the council, the BSA could be liable even if no indication was given at the time of sale it was to benefit a BSA unit. Ed Mori 1 Peter 4:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob White Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 sigh...just because you choose to take the money that is raised and give it to an organization does not make the organization liable for the injury. "And since the Money-Unit Earning Application was approved by the council, the BSA could be liable even if no indication was given at the time of sale it was to benefit a BSA unit." IF the money earning application is approved for affiliating your self with scouting then you HAVE permission from the council to do so. If you do not file, or are not approved, then it is not allowed for you to wear the uniform. It is the council that gets to determine if they wish to take the liability exposure not the unit or a unit volunteer who decides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evmori Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 IF the money earning application is approved for affiliating your self with scouting then you HAVE permission from the council to do so. If you do not file, or are not approved, then it is not allowed for you to wear the uniform. It is the council that gets to determine if they wish to take the liability exposure not the unit or a unit volunteer who decides. Yes if there is no application there is no Council approval. That has never been an issue. The Council Executive Committee gives approval for wearing the uniform, not the Money-Unit Earning Application. If the Council is included in the lawsuit, the courts will decide if the Council is liable, not the Council. sigh...just because you choose to take the money that is raised and give it to an organization does not make the organization liable for the injury. True, but they will more than likely named in the lawsuit. Who wants pie! Ed Mori 1 Peter 4:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FScouter Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Must you two continue with your inane, immature and childish bickering??? STOP it already! If my dad was here he'd knock your heads together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evmori Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 (This message has been edited by a staff member.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n1cholson Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 Could someone clarify the rules regarding the use of the uniform by an individual Scout to raise money to go to camp? I seem to recall language in the rules that said something to the effect of "Nothing in these rules shall be interpreted to prevent a Scout from wearing his uniform while performing work to raise money to go to summer camp." Is earning your own way to camp by wearing a uniform while mowing lawns for a neighbor permitted? Thanks in advance for the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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