zippie2223 Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Can my Cub Scout den do a fund raiser? We are a in a very economically poor area and a few kids are with single moms. They may not be able to go to summer camp, which cost 40.00$, this year.(This message has been edited by zippie2223) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob White Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Units may apply for fundraisers. That means the Pack, Troop, or Crew mayy apply. If your Den is the only one that participates out of the Unit that's fine. But you as a parent or Den Leader are not authorized to apply for a fund-raising project. See the conditions on the Unit Money Earning Application form. http://www.scouting.org/forms/34427.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWScouter Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Yes, sort of. You will need your pack to submit a unit fundraising application for whatever you decide to do. Only the Pack is allowed to do fundraising. Your den could be the only ones working it, but the rest of the pack may also work on it. Dont forget to check with your council; most councils have a campership fund that will help out with the cost of camp. I know the one in our council has a hard time giving the money away as it has not been getting enough requests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJCubScouter Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 zippie, your question has already been answered by others, so let me ask YOU a question. You mention "summer camp" costing "40.00$." Is that forty (40) dollars, U.S. currency? And what is the camp, is it Cub Scout day camp? Run by council or district? $40 for one week? The reason I ask is that this is less than one-fourth what I had to pay per week of Cub Scout day camp for my son. For $40 I would want to make sure they aren't employing the kids as slave labor on a road construction crew or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John-in-KC Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 US $160???? For 5 days of Cub Scout Day Camp? There'd better be some GOLD foil on the cubgrub! I just called my PD for our District DC. US $45. John(This message has been edited by John-in-KC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoutmaster Ron Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 This might be a little off track but question forthe field When a Troop does a fundraiser does it need to provide a service or product? I think I read it somewhere and just want to confirm. The other half would be can Troops go to business and ask for donations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippie2223 Posted March 31, 2004 Author Share Posted March 31, 2004 40$ is for a five days camp. It is district run. 160$ I would just quit... We already have two single moms struggling to make ends meet. Damn I'm in a two parent working family and I would never pay 160$ for camp. thats us dollars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippie2223 Posted March 31, 2004 Author Share Posted March 31, 2004 oppps... double post(This message has been edited by zippie2223) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob White Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Ron The answer is yes. See the info in the link I offered in my previous post. Units may not go to businesses and ask for direct donations of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotoscout Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Wow, our five day Day Camp program is $175.00 give or take $25.00 depending on a few things. What a deal, $40.00 for 5 days of camp! Our Parent-Cub Weekends are $30.00 per person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Old Guy Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Our District day camp is $100 which surprised me. I don't recall paying that much for day camp for my son. $100 for five days of crafts and you have to pack your own lunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hops_scout Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 $100 for 5 days of DAY CAMP??? That's crazy!!! Our Cub Scout day camp is a 3 day camp and costs 22.50. Our Boy Scout resident camp is 6 days and is 115 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsteele Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 Whoa, whoa, whoa! Slow down on the price wars, guys and gals! It may not be obvious to you, but it is to me. There are some big time differences from council to council regarding Day Camp prices and you have to make sure you're comparing apples to oranges. Some day camps have volunteer staffs and short windows. Does your district/council offer 1 session of day camp with a volunteer staff and bring your own meals? Those will be cheaper than multi-session day camps with paid staff. Are meals included? Price goes up. Does the pack provide walkers for the dens, or are they paid staff. Is bussing provided? T-shirts, cups, patches, even hats? All that stuff drives the price up or down. I've seen and worked with Day Camps across the board in Cub Scouting. Here are some major expenses that factor into the cost. Absence of one leads to a reduction in cost and the addition of one adds to the cost. Not all are equal, but all are important: Expenses: Staff -- free (volunteer) paid (expensive) or simply well recognized (with t-shirts and hats) Recognition items -- do the kids get t-shirts, cups, patch, etc.? Program supplies -- craft stuff, wood working supplies and tools, rope, nature books, whatever. Facility rental -- does the camp pay to use a park, or rent the council property, or pay for portajohns, or water, etc.? Transportation -- are busses provided? Seen that. Big expense. Entertainment for the rest period can be expensive. Food -- is the day camp providing meals and kitchen staff? More expense. Even if they're not, refrigeration for the lunches can be an additional expense. Training expense (often overlooked) the Camp Director, Program Director and business manager have to attend national camp school in order to be certified in order for the camp to open. It's in the price. If they repeat -- great. It's a 5 year certificate. Add a new one and you have a new expense. Promotion expense -- is there a Day camp promotion piece or video? That's an expense. Don't look at these things as price to price. You need to look at what's included and what's not when comparing prices. Day Camp to Day camp comparisons are not apples to apples. If all else asks, ask your day camp advisor to see the budget. DS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twocubdad Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 Crazy? Not from where I'm sitting. The day camp I'm director of charges $95 for a 5-day program, but the length of the camp is only one factor determining the cost. I'd be glad to share our camp budget with anyone who is interested. But some of the highlights include 10% of our budget taken off the top by the council; $2,000 for busses and drivers to pick up Scouts in the far reaches of the district and to shuttle them between the two camp sites; about $10 per Scout for a T-shirt (part of our security/ID system) and camp patch; $18 for each volunteer for a little bit nicer collared shirt; $800 for fuel, bait and gear for the fishing boats; $350 to send our aquatics director to camp school; nearly $1,000 for a picnic lunch the last day of camp;on and on and on. Anyone who balks at the cost of day camp should compare the cost of non-Scout camps. And I'm not talking luxury spa camps either. Our local Y charges $200 for a week at their day camp. I pay $50 per week for my boys to go to a 2-hour per day after school program. Anyone who is balking at paying $40 for summer camp needs to re-examine their priorities. Unless a family is absolutely destitute (and there are scholarship programs if they are), anyone should be able to come up with $40 between now and June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsteele Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 TwocubDad: Thanks for the great example. Expenses vary greatly across the country, as does what it pays for. That's what I've discovered in property taxes as well. Still haven't figured out what Ohio is going to give us at twice the price than Wisconsin gave us, but I bet there's something we're overlooking. If not, I've got some letters to write and phones to ring. Or is it wring? DS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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