Gov. Rick Perry violates the religious rights of children

[vol_scouter]

CalicoPenn,

 

The point is that school children have been prevented from praying in schools. Valedictorians cannot say a pray, etc. The youth at the flag pole were prevented from praying resulting in a lawsuit. The guards at the SCOTUS told the school group that they could not demonstrate on the oval. They were not demonstrating, they were praying. There may be good reasons for the rule but their First Amendment rights were abridged. Those rights can be abridged in some circumstances such as the oft quoted of not yelling fire in a crowded theater.

 

Perry is like most (all?) politicians in saying things that are not entirely true to get support. He is certainly not my choice for president.

[SeattlePioneer]

Personally I find Vol Scouter's line of argument reasonable. Particularly offensive is the Supreme Court's effort to censor the speech made at public assemblies --- valedictorian addresses that might contain a prayer.

 

If it were a Communist reciting Karl Marx--- they'd be falling all over themselves protecting that speech.

 

But prayer? Nooooooooo!

 

 

But what is Marx anyway? He was the Jesus of the Communist secular religion ----and tyranny.

 

The Supreme Court is pleased to take pot shots at conventional religion, but not the new secular religions of Marxism, environmentalism, feminism or whatever.

 

Let them ALL have their say and let people decide for themselves!

[Lisabob]

y'uns is funny! (with a nod to Ed, where ever he may be)

 

[FScouter]

Unless there appears to be a modicum of civility and honest point of view, posts with the apparent purpose of berating other forum members are at risk of being deleted.

[packsaddle]

In sympathy to Fscouter (and also in response to that embarrassing display in the thread on parents attending OA ceremonies) I have to note that perhaps this could be the time that we could all just recognize that it is OK to have different views on these topics. We could pretend that we're actually TOGETHER at a campfire. We could renew a spirit of friendship and perhaps use the scout law to provide a model that others could follow. We could change the tone of public discourse, bring civility back to politics. The effect could spread to the whole nation and then to other countries. 'Occupy' and protest would no longer be needed. Conflicts could be settled peacefully. The planet could rest with all people working peacefully together for the good of all....

 

Naaaaahhhhhhh! back to the thread.