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No Ed, I've explained why. You can't seem to find my explanations.

 

I'll try once more:

 

Person A and B are talking about the meaning of statement X.

Both are being sincere, both are equally fluent in the language statement X is written in.

A and B disagree quite strongly on the meaning of statement X.

 

Based on the above, I conclude that statement X is not clear.

 

Notice that asking me what part of "statement X" is not clear is not only irrelevant, it's not possible because my example doesn't even include what statement X says or any hint about why A and B disagree.

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The problem with Merlyn's logic is that if A and B can't agree on the interpretation of X then there's something wrong/unclear with X. However, if there's nothing wrong with X then either A and/or B are wrong. The faulty logic lies in the fact that there's an assumption that there is a problem with X. I contend that there's a problem with either A or B. Therefore it's always possible that either Merlyn and/or Ed is wrong. Let the reader decide for themselves.

 

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jblake47 writes:

The problem with Merlyn's logic is that if A and B can't agree on the interpretation of X then there's something wrong/unclear with X.

 

I only said X is UNCLEAR; I have never stated that X is WRONG.

 

You are attacking a straw man; you are addressing an argument I haven't made.

 

However, if there's nothing wrong with X then either A and/or B are wrong.

 

Irrelevant.

 

Notice that the only claim I'm making is that X is unclear. Again, you are answering an argument I never made. I haven't assumed that X is wrong or right.

 

The faulty logic lies in the fact that there's an assumption that there is a problem with X.

 

I haven't made that assumption. I'm only concluding that X is unclear.

 

I contend that there's a problem with either A or B.

 

You do?

 

Here's an example of A, B, and X:

A = a citizen of England

B = a citizen of Australia

X = "The Prime Minister is named Kevin"

 

Who has the problem? A or B? I say the statement is unclear, because it doesn't say which Prime Minister is being referred to.

 

 

fixed typo.(This message has been edited by Merlyn_LeRoy)

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However, if there's nothing wrong with X then either A and/or B are wrong.

 

Irrelevant.

 

Notice that the only claim I'm making is that X is unclear. Again, you are answering an argument I never made. I haven't assumed that X is wrong or right.

 

Totally relevant! You have no supporting evidence that X is unclear! And your

 

Here's an example of A, B, and X:

A = a citizen of England

B = a citizen of Australia

X = "The Prime Minister is named Kevin"

 

isn't even close to being similar!

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