GernBlansten Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 The faster Obama fails and brings the nation to its knees, the quicker we can establish a conservative utopia from its ashes. Now I understand why we hope he fails. Soon. This is a clarifying moment for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoutingagain Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 "scoutingagain, I refer you to the 1994 Republican Revolution. The AWB was a major reason for the revolt. Clinton admitted it himself. You may not be aware of the importance of the issue, based on your state of residence. " Well that may true. I admit I don't know many Assault Weapon owners who aren't worried about their job or home who voted for Obama or even generally vote Democratic who would likely change their vote if the government banned them. SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagledad Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Only liberals use the word utopia. Conservative use the words like personal freedom. Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GernBlansten Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I would hope that the conservatives would engage in a bloodless coup over a slash and burn approach for regaining power. "In order to preserve our nation, we first had to destroy it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoutldr Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Government "help" to business is just as disastrous as government persecution... the only way a government can be of service to national prosperity is by keeping its hands off. Ayn Rand (1905-1982) It only stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master. Ayn Rand We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force. Ayn Rand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardad Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Gun owners aren't only conservatives. Lots of Democrats disagreed with the AWB too. The only thing an AWB does is limit magazine capacity and outlaw cosmetic features. you still can't just go out and buy a machine gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GernBlansten Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 As a liberal, I think the AWB is really stupid legislation. It does nothing to protect the public and only enrages and fortifies the gun nuts. Neither of which is healthy for our society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScout Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 It also enrages and fortifies ordinary citizens who love liberty and the Constitution - not just gun nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GernBlansten Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Much like the Patriot Act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScout Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Probably not as much. Few things anger liberty-loving Americans as much as taking away their guns. Recall why American militias first gathered to stop the British army from marching on Concord in 1775. The British knew that disarming a population is the first step in subverting the freedom of a people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baschram645 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I just hope that if Obama has to appoint a justice to the supreme court the person has a paid up tax bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GernBlansten Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 The AWB never really took guns away from Americans. It just made them alter them so the cosmetically limited features were eliminated, only to be re-applied by aftermarket sources. That's why the law is silly and non-effective. The fact that the gun nuts got their collective panties in a wad because of it is also rather pathetic. The failure of the liberals was to even try to enact it. It gave the gun lobby a rallying cry, one that could get the masses off their $$ses and vote against their best interests. Conservative republicans may have their own idiotic crosses to bear, but they don't hold a candle to the lunacy of some of the irrelevant stuff the liberals try to pass. Especially gun stuff. Case in point. "We can decide that we've go to keep the guns out of the hands of our children. We can make safer weapons. We can make safer bullets." Joycelyn Elders-1993 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadenP Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Gern The blithering idiocy and vile hatred that spews out of you, compounded by your innaccurate stereotyping is so pathetic that it would be funny if I did not know that you really believe the stupid things you say. Time to come back into the real world dude, your type of logic went out of style over 50 years ago. "It is better to be perceived as ignorant by others than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GernBlansten Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Wow. Now there are some very scout like statements. Do you kiss your mother with that potty mouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evmori Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Other than to murder someone, why would the everyday citizen need an assault weapon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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