evmori Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 If the government were promoting religion, yes I would have a problem with it. But having the word God on currency is not promoting religion? Theism isn't religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlyn_LeRoy Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Atheism isn't a religion either, but the first amendment covers both theism and atheism. If it's legal to have "in god we trust" it's also legel to have "in Jesus we trust" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evmori Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Interesting concept, Merlyn. Neither would be promoting religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GernBlansten Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Ed, if its not promoting a religion, what purpose does the motto serve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evmori Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Does it have to promote anything? And if this motto is promoting something, what is it? It sure isn't religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GernBlansten Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Ed, in an earlier post, you stated, "As A devout Christian, I don't think it should be removed." Fair enough. But if you agree that it serves no purpose, why do you support retaining it on our money? If it serves no purpose, why oppose removing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evmori Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Retooling cost for one thing. All the coin dies & paper money plates would have to be changed & it just doesn't seem cost effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSScout Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Reminders: The US Guvmnt does not REQUIRE it's citizenry to attend church/temple/mission/synagogue/mosque/meeting/discussion group. It does not COLLECT tax or tithe for financing any of the above institutions. It does not PUNISH it's citizenry or visitors (both invited and not) for NOT attending church/temple/missiion/synagogue/mosque/meeting/discussion group. The majority of our voting citizenry, thru their representatives, chose to present their belief that we try to trust in God (mebbe not always successfully.Another discussion another time), however anyone may or may not perceive him/her/it to be, by a short motto on our publicly available currency. It is altogether appropriate for the citizenry to petition their representatives to reconsider that decision. Perhaps a better question is not whether we should publicly express our trust in God, but if it is possible for God to trust in us.(This message has been edited by SSScout) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlyn_LeRoy Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Ed, there always seems to be enough money to pander to the religious right, as in the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2008, where congress moved "in god we trust" off the edge of the presidential dollar coins to the front or back. And the plates for bills $5 and up were recently changed, IGWT could have been removed at that time. Bills may have to be changed again if the 2007 verdict in favor of the American Council of the Blind is upheld, so there's another possible "free" opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evmori Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Pander? That's what I love about you Merlyn, you are always on the attack! Freedom of religion, my friend. And God on anything is promoting religion about as much as the guy with the rainbow hair & the John 3:16 sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlyn_LeRoy Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Ed, you keep trying to deny your god for some reason. You want him on your money, but you deny that your god has anything to do with religion or Christianity. And by the way, the rainbow wig guy (Rollen Stewart) is currently serving 3 life sentences for kidnapping people when he thought the rapture was imminent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evmori Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Not denying my God at all Merlyn. Never have & never will. I have never denied God has anything to do with religion. That's your interpretation, which is in error. One can believe in God without belonging to a religion. The motto isn't "In Lutheranism we Trust". That would be promoting a religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlyn_LeRoy Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Now all you have to do is realize that the first amendment talks about an "establishment of religion" and not "a religion", and maybe read a few court opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevorum Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 In prison, Stewart is still waiting for the rapture. Any day now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evmori Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I know what the 1st Amendment states, Merlyn. God is not a religion. He is a deity! Religions believe in Him. You don't. That's your choice. But having God on US currency or as part of a motto does not establish a religion! NEXT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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