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Should the motto "In God We Trust" be removed from U.S. currency?


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Coin collecting merit badge? No, I'm not a counselor. Maybe I ought to consider it, though. I have a collection I started when I was quite young when my grandfather gave me my first silver dollar. My sons showed great interest in the old coins, but never took up the hobby. Well, older son did start collecting the new quarters, but gave that up after about the second year.

 

Coin and stamp collecting was fairly popular when I was young. I wonder - do boys or girls still collect coins or stamps? I don't know any that do.

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No Merlyn you're not correct. No one is telling anyone who or what to believe in. If that is the inference you are getting then that's your interpretation.

 

As for my tactics being fanatical in nature, I have to ask . . . . . . . so?

 

Well based on this statement And I don't use governmental power to tell children what their religious views ought to be, Ed. Eisenhower did I got the impression you thought you weren't. Thanks for admitting to being a fanatic. That explains a lot.

 

 

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No Merlyn you're not correct. No one is telling anyone who or what to believe in. If that is the inference you are getting then that's your interpretation.

 

So if the pledge was changed to "under no god," there'd be no problems having children recite that every morning, right?

 

Well based on this statement "And I don't use governmental power to tell children what their religious views ought to be, Ed. Eisenhower did" I got the impression you thought you weren't [a fanatic]

 

I'm not a religious fanatic that abuses governmental power to coerce children, no. But there's nothing wrong with being a fanatic per se.

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Since I believe in God, I would say it should be left alone or taken out altogether.

 

So it's OK if the government pushes your religious views, but not OK if they oppose them. That's not religious freedom, Ed. That's government favoritism.

 

And you are a religious fanatic, Merlyn. Atheism is a belief system and religions are belief systems so that makes you a religious fanatic!

 

Atheism isn't a belief system, Ed, but even ignoring that, you may have missed that I'm not advocating that the government favor atheism. You're the one who wants government favoritism, not me.

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Yeah ya are Merlyn! Having the word God on anything to do with the government is not promoting any religion! Wanting it removed is trying to force your beliefs on the masses! OK atheism is the absence of belief in deities! Bu you do believe there are no deities so technically, it's a belief system!

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HWGA...

 

Possible side threads (choose any that attract you):

 

1) The desire of the MAJORITY in a democracy to express a belief at the risk of insulting/offending a minority.

2) Requiring children to recite something that may or may not be in agreement with the parent's religious beliefs. (Q: Who would one expect NOT to recite the PoA?). Punishment? Teaching moment?

3) The tyranny of a minority opinion in controlling a philosophic situation if no "harm" is done. What really constitutes "harm"?

4) Perceived lack of patriotism/loyalty/rightness by someone who does not react "appropriately" to the *flag going by, *Star Spangled Banner being played, *PoA being requested, *name your own situation.

5) "Swearing" to tell the truth actually guarantees that the truth will be told.

6) Oh, that's enough. Choose your weapon.

 

 

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Yeah ya are Merlyn! Having the word God on anything to do with the government is not promoting any religion!

 

It's promoting theism.

 

Wanting it removed is trying to force your beliefs on the masses!

 

Nope, that's being neutral. Having something like "gods are myths" would be trying to force my beliefs on the masses.

 

The difference is, you have no problem when the government promotes religious beliefs that agree with yours, while I don't want the government to promote any kind of religious stance, including atheism, even if it does agree with my beliefs.

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