America wins...

[Bob White]

Socialism is not a solution to injustice. It has not resolved injustices in other countries that have been ruled by socialism and it will not solve injustices in the USA.

 

Controlling peoples income through government regulations will not better anyone's life other than the politicians. It will only give government the power to determine how needy they can make you, and to what degree they can control you by being your source of income and welfare.

 

A woman was just on the news that said she voted for Obama because she is fed up with the Bush administration because "they could have stopped Hurricane Katrina from coming but they didn't".

 

Obama has a difficult time ahead of him. His supporters are expecting him to change the course of hurricanes, pay their mortgages, and run their cars on sunshine for free.

 

God help us all.

 

 

[OldGreyEagle]

Who was it that booed Boy Scouts presenting the flag during a National Political Convention? It was youth that were booed, not policy makers, not employees, but youth.

 

No side, Democrat, Republican, Liberal, Conservative, or whatever you have has the high moral ground on behavior. Any side has what is referred to in Philadelphia as the "jabroni" Factor.

 

I also heard the clip of the woman who said if Obama wins she wont have to pay her mortage, etc but c'mon folks, do we truly beleive that person represents the mainstream of people who voted for him? Of America?

 

I am not happy Obama won, but life goes on. I have to say, in eastern PA where I live I got plenty of those automated phone call thingies. One from Bill Clinton, One from Joe Biden and one from Obama. Last Sunday in a steady rain a Obama worker was going house to house talking about Obama. I got "real" phone calls twice asking who I would vote for from the Obama campaign. Calls from the Republicans?Nada, zero, zip, bupkis, Front Door Bell ringers the same.

 

The republicans bailed on McCain

[Gold Winger]

"have respect for the office and the man that the majority of the people in this great country decided was the right leader for this difficult time in our history."

 

Sure, like all the liberals did for our current president. How many entertainers said they'd leave the country . . . but never did. Of course, there's Michael Moore, Chris Rock and Bill Maher who took every opportunity to not just comment on policies but to make personal attacks on the President.

 

"the only idiotic comments I read in this forum come directly from you on just about every topic."

 

I'm just wondering how any one can lead us into the past without a time machine. Claiming that anyone can lead us into the past is pretty stupid. Kinda like assuming the name of the founder of Scouting.

[funscout]

OGE, I agree that the republican party let McCain down. Since McCain is not as conservative as most of us wanted, he had a tough battle to fight. I can't figure out why McCain didn't play clips of all those democrat friends of his, saying how great he was (before McCain decided to run for president.) There are a lot of other things that he could have done, but failed to do. Maybe I should have been his political advisor!

 

Now we need to pray that our leaders will heed God's calls, instead of turning their backs on Him.

 

 

[Bob White]

Do Ithink hat the woman who thinks Obama is going to pay her mortgage represements everyone who voted for Obama? No, but I y=think she represents a growing population of people who believe that the governement is there to do that for her. She believes that because the liberal poilticians have created that dream for her and she believes it.

 

I also agree that the Obama campaign far outdistanced his opponent in his ability to get his message out. Do you think that ability was due largely to the fact that after both candidates agreed to limit their campaign budgets that Obama lied and took money he said he would not take and McCain kept his word and limited his funding?

 

I do respect the office, I know I respected it more than Clinton did, I think I probably respect it more than the man who will soon hold it. We will soon see.

[SR540Beaver]

Or we can just ignore the oath and law. After all, those are just pretty words for the boys to mindlessly repeat. No need for Scouters to actually live it and model it in our "real" lives. Sigh.

[BrentAllen]

"Look I know lots of you live in Red States and maybe havent travelled much."

 

Thanks. I needed a new "most ridiculous statement" to add to my collection. My 12 year-old son has a more extensive travel resume than yours. I hate to bring you down off your high horse, but that list isn't anything to brag about.

 

Obama won because of the economy. And Prop 8 passed.

 

Better enjoy this Democrat victory now, because in 2 years we will have another Republican Revolution, just like we did in 1994.

 

From the very red state of Georgia,

Brent

[jr56]

Just pray that there is a country left to save 4 years from now.

 

[BadenP]

With all the anger, bitterness, and contempt being exhibited in this thread and then we wonder why things can't ever seem to get done in Washington. McCain knew that only by working together, without regards to party, could we change America and talked about it constantly in the campaign. Obama hasn't even taken office yet and some of you guys are tossing out threats, criticism, and innuendo, even dictating how he is going to do his job.

 

"I have even more respect for the office than the man who will taking that office." - Bob White.

 

Now if that isn't a bitter, self centered, and even unAmerican statement then I don't know what is, like it or not Obama is our new president and should be shown the respect the office of President carries. You can not truly have respect for the office and make a crack like that.

[Eamonn]

I didn't stay up to watch the results.

As I posted before, I think both men are both good men.

My opinion is that Barack Obama will be very much like Bill Clinton; very much a middle of the road president.

 

A few years back I hired a mini cab to drive me from outside of London to the airport.

The driver was a Pakistani, who for the entire journey did nothing but complain about President Bush.

About the same time there had been demonstrations all over Europe against the war in Iraq.

America and Americans were seen as being bullies.

 

While I did see some reports in the papers and some news coverage about this in the USA. the coverage in Europe was front page news.

From what I'm now hearing and reading, a lot of people outside of the USA think that the election of Barack Obama is a good thing.

It shows that diversity is not just a nice idea, but is something we believe in and make work.

I did catch some of the coverage of the big gathering of people in Chicago's Grant Park, I was waiting for someone to start chanting "The whole world is watching" but maybe I went to bed too early?

Things are a real mess at the moment.

We do need to remember that this mess is world wide and it seems that there is no easy fix.

We still have people who for one reason or another don't like us and don't like what we stand for. Sad to say it seems that some of the people want to cause havoc and harm.

These people it seems are not going to go away and will need to be dealt with.

 

This morning an African- American inmate who is doing a lot of time asked me if I voted? I explained that I'm not a citizen. We talked for a while and he said" There are no red states, no blue states just the United States. I said how I consider myself lucky and fortunate to live here and how much I love the USA. He said "You know, your right.

If a guy with more than a dozen years left to serve before he gets out of prison can feel that way. This truly must be a great country.

Eamonn.

[Kahuna]

BadenP, you sound like you need a couple of aspirin and a cold towel and maybe a break from these threads.

 

I wonder if it was a good idea for Terry to start them.

[theysawyoucomin']

Scout Mom SD

 

"fears for the children of people that would boo a new president"

 

 

Did you fear for the children of people who threw garbage at the Pres. Bush limo in Jan 2001?

 

Or was that OK "cause he really didn't win" ????

 

The nation and the left did a lot more than just boo.

I don't recall anybody but Al Gore saying we should support Mr. Bush

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chas Schumer (a load from NY) equated conservative talk radio with pornography. That's tolerance for you. Look for the "Fairness DOCTRINE" soon. Reminds me of the German "Democratic" Republic. Two legs bad 4 legs good except for birds.

 

 

 

HISTORIC??? why ???? because he is black. Why doesn't anybody think that is a racist thing to say?

 

 

"not the color of their skin but the content of their character"

 

MLK was killed because he uttered those words.

 

 

What experience does this man have?

 

Let's hope Biden was wrong about being tested. Both because I don't want anybody hurt and because I don't what to watch Mr. Obama do "On the job training"

 

This guy is all hat and no cows.

 

Look for the Dems to go hard to the left while they can.

They have two years to "reconstruct" America.

 

I will admit to being intolerant to having my 2nd ammend. rights infringed, my tax dollars paying for unborn babies to be thrown in a landfill and more of my money being taken by the gov't to be given to people who continue to make bad decisions even after having 4 kids by 3 diferent studs. I don't like that my tax dollars go to buying addicts clean needles yet I have to show ID to buy them for my diabetic dog.

 

 

Simply stated Mr. Obama was elected because folks blame everything on Bush. Simply not being George Bush does not bestow the man with enough talent, gravitas(remember that word???????????) and experience to run the country.

 

 

 

 

[Beavah]

Yah, I think there was something very telling about both of the speeches last night.

 

The moment for me came when Senator McCain's audience several times booed at President-elect Obama's name. The look on McCain's face - a look of annoyance and anger as he raised his hand to try to silence and simultaneously disavow the crowd - was very telling.

 

Men of honor truly cannot stomach the partisan ugliness that less than honorable politicians have used to divide us. I reckon it's a shame that in moments of personal ambition and weakness, Senator McCain and other Republican politicians allowed some of da neo-con radicals to set the tone for their campaign.

 

I think it's even more of a shame that the Republican party which had earned my vote from Jerry Ford on (I never cared for Nixon) has stooped to such nonsense. And the true tragedy is that along da way we somehow managed to convince a few of our fellow Americans to believe in this nonsense.

 

I reckon more than anything, this election is a repudiation of that, eh? All of us are loyal Americans, and most recognize the opposition as loyal Americans. We have disagreements over a few issues of policy, eh? Policy decisions are hard. They need all of our brains, liberal and conservative, workin' the problem. We need each other to argue with and challenge our assumptions, lest we do dumb things like deregulate banking, go to war with too few men over bad intel, or try to pass our wife's personal notion of health care reform without thinkin' through all da impacts.

 

The opposition winning isn't a disaster. It ain't the end of America. It is America. It's the people sayin' "Whoa! You blew it!" and holdin' their representatives accountable. It's the people choosin', in the free market of ideas, a different idea for a bit.

 

The only disaster would be the one Senator McCain became so visibly angry with, eh? Lettin' our passions paint the opposition as the enemy, to the detriment of the nation. Letting people become ugly about da thing the entire world stands in awe of - that we can have a bloodless transition of power, and that a minority, the son of an African exchange student, can become leader of the most powerful nation on Earth.

 

More than anything, I reckon this election is a repudiation of that nasty approach. And my fellow Republicans better listen, or next time the opposition will get 60 seats in the senate. Patriots vote for their country and all their fellow countrymen, eh? Not for their party.

 

I reckon Scouter Terry is right, too. Guerrilla wars and insurgencies and radical ideologies that cut across national boundaries can't be targeted well by bombs. But da power of elections? The example of this particular election? There's not a would-be-caliph in the world that isn't shaking in frustration and terror at America's embodiment of such a powerful idea.

 

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[nolesrule]

Beavah, can I quote you on that? Seriously, I know some people out there (being non-Scout related I'd rather keep them away from this forum) who need to read that.

[Tokala]

Very well said, Beavah!