Slouchhat Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Hello, what's going on here? http://www.scout.org/en/content/download/9539/81200/file/C0733WOSM_Institutional_Crisis_e.pdf best regards, Volker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Looks likes BSA is flexing its muscle. Over what I cannot tell from that letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erickelly65 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Has anyone seen this "open letter" and what it stated with regard to governance?(This message has been edited by erickelly65) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadenP Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 I bet it is either over the gay issue, religious principle, or coed scouting. Looks like there is a storm a brewing mateys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Winger Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 BSA pays 40% of the budget of the the WSC? Interesting. I'm glad to see that BSA is showing their cojones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASM915 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Gold Winger, The 40% was the total withheld by all NSO's, not just the BSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slouchhat Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 Hello, I'm a bit disappointed that the newsletter doesn't exactly say what the problems are. Too bad that this seems to be compartmented for the higher echelons. best regards, Volker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisabob Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Without knowing what the argument is about, it is hard to tell whether the BSA is flashing their figurative parts as GW suggests, or just being stubborn about some idiotic bureaucratic thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevorum Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 The "governance issues" are not specified but it looks like BSA, Sweden, and unspecified other countries want Mr. Missoni to step down as Sec. General. It'll be interesting to see who blinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavah Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Yah, a copy of da letter from HQ. Issues have nuthin' to do with conservative social issues, but rather with financial transparency and support of "pet projects" over aid to National Scouting Organizations in the developing world. Sorta like UN funding issues, eh? Beavah ------- Date: October 17, 2007 To: Members of the World Scout Committee From: Wayne M. Perry International Commissioner Subject: Recent Decision of the Boy Scouts of America I am writing you today in my capacity as the International Commissioner of the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) to inform you of an irrevocable decision the BSA made at its National Officers Meeting last night with respect to our participation in the World Organization of the Scout Movement (WOSM). This decision was made after a very careful review of numerous issues that have evolved since early 2004. We are fully aware of the impact this decision will have on the BSA and WOSM; however, it has been determined that no other course of action is available to take. Let me begin by expressing how proud the BSA is of our long involvement in world Scouting. The BSAs support and participation in WOSM has enabled us to use our resources to aid the Scouting movement throughout the world. The movement has in turn enhanced the richness of the BSAs Scouting program. We sincerely believe we have helped make a difference and hopefully look forward to doing so again soon. Perhaps a brief summary of our financial commitment to world Scouting can help frame the issues at hand. The most recent audited financial statements of the World Scout Bureau (WSB) dated September 5, 2007, shows that the BSA contributed 39.04 percent of the fees collected by the WSB. This 39.04 percent the BSA contributed does not include the some $2.5 million (USD) that the BSA, its donors, and its benefactors made in special grants to the WSB, its regional offices, and selected National Scout Organizations (NSOs) during this past year. Nor does the amount in fees paid include the large sums that were donated to the World Scout Foundation (WSF) by BSA Scouters, which were made as a result of the direct encouragement of the BSA. Additionally, the BSA continued to make program support materials available to selected NSOs at no cost. The financial commitment made by the BSA outlined above also does not include the extensive time and financial commitments made by so many BSA volunteers and professionals who willingly attend and participate in the various task force and committee meetings of WOSM at the world, regional, or NSO level. BSA volunteers both give their time and pay their own way to these meetings (BSA volunteers do not receive travel or expense reimbursement from WOSM or the BSA). They do this out of a deep and personal commitment to WOSM. Clearly, the BSA is by far the largest single financial contributor to WOSM of any member NSO, and we have an obligation to be certain these combined resources are utilized properly. Therein lies the core issue. In return for these commitments, the BSA asks that the funds we provide to the WSB are (1) spent with a view of supporting the NSOs especially NSOs in lesser developed countries to grow and deliver a quality Scouting program to a maximum number of youth and (2) spent in an efficient manner with appropriate and transparent financial controls. The BSA has reluctantly come to the conclusion that under the current processes and leadership of the WSB, neither of these two goals has been nor will be achieved. Therefore, the BSA has decided that it will suspend the payment of any and all funds (fees, grants, and task force support) to the WSB and its regional offices until the current Secretary General is replaced and appropriate processes instituted to restore the WSB to what we believe is its core mission in aiding NSOs to grow and deliver a quality Scouting program. (The BSA will continue to provide direct support to selected NSOs.) Decisions of the WSB seem to be made with little regard to their effect on often- struggling NSOs. The WSB has focused on other priorities such as the World Scout Scientific Congress and its proposed new $14 million World Scout Center building in Geneva, but it has not completed its 2007/2008 budget for at least three months into the current fiscal year (which is better than last years budget, which was finalized five months into the fiscal year). The recently disclosed multimillion-dollar WSB investment in the Picarquin Training and Events Center (dubbed a World Scout Center) has adversely impacted the Interamerica Region Office and the NSOs it is charged to serve. Scout use at the Picarquin Training and Events Center represents only 7 percent of the use (on a revenue basis) of the center. The recently released report on Picarquin by the WOSM Audit Committee discloses that Picarquins ongoing operations result in a significant annual loss to the Interamerica Region and that a profit will not be feasible under the current financial structure of Picarquin. We disagree with the Secretary Generals belief that Picarquin makes money and disagree with the desire to construct a hotel on the site (with the area around the site being rezoned as a proposed gambling center) as a way of salvaging his decisions. The recently proposed tax of 7.5 percent on the income from future world Scout jamboree fees as a means of raising money would make it more difficult for youth to attend future jamborees. There also appears to be no need for the WSBs effort to license World Scout Centers. The impact these two items will have on struggling NSOs is likely negative at best. We at the BSA are not at a loss for opportunities for using our resources. The BSA has many places to utilize its resources to further the Scouting movement. We have a renewed focus on serving disadvantaged youth in the USA and around the world, which can effectively utilize the dollars we have previously contributed to the WSB. Despite these competing needs, the BSA would like nothing more than to resume the financial support for WOSM. Under current conditions, it is just not possible for us to be responsible stewards of the funds we have been entrusted with by the generous supporters of the BSA to entrust any further monies to the WSB. We have thought hard and appreciate the magnitude of our decision. If the situation is not resolved, the BSA would be suspended from WOSM late next year for nonpayment of fees and thus would not be eligible to attend the upcoming world Scout jamboree in Sweden, the world Scout conference in Brazil, or other WOSM-sanctioned events. If this were to be the case, our Scouts and leaders would surely miss the opportunity for a wonderful interaction with Scouts and leaders from around the world; however, in light of the legal and practical circumstances faced by charitable organizations in the USA today, we have no other choice. Like others that share these concerns, we look forward to working together with our fellow NSOs to bring the WSB back on track. We welcome the sharing of ideas on how to achieve this task, but we hope you understand that new leadership at the WSB is a prerequisite to the restoration of funding by the BSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoutingagain Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Even before Beavah posted the letter I suspected something like a financial issue. I mean would you really expect the BSA and Sweden to come to a consensus on the social stuff? SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevorum Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Thanks for posting, Beav. I find it interesting that BSA is contemplating being banned from the next World Jamboree - in Sweden - and Sweden is on record supporting the BSA's stand. (I suppose the Swedes wouldn't be allowed to attend their own event?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eolesen Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Gee, a move by National that everyone should be in agreement on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadenP Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 This is indeed an interesting issue concerning the distribution of contributions and the lack of accoutability. I wonder if BSA-National would be as open to an audit of their own books and the lack of accountability to its own volunteers and supporters here in the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slouchhat Posted November 9, 2007 Author Share Posted November 9, 2007 Hello, I would think that as long as nobody really asks for this, it's not voluntarily given. best regards, Volker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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