Moderators: is Scouter.com anti-BSA?

[fgoodwin]

I came across the following items being sold in the Scouter.com bookstore:

 

http://www.scouter.com/books/shop.php?mode=Books&item=B0008I84PM

http://www.scouter.com/books/shop.php?mode=Books&item=B0008HA0YQ

http://www.scouter.com/books/shop.php?mode=Books&item=B0006S1FD2

 

I was a bit surprised to see such things being sold here, but maybe I shouldn't have been.

 

Fred G.

[Rooster7]

I find it incredulous that Scouter.com would sell these materials, but yet there they are

 

I'm speechless.

[Kudu]

And just to be fair, why not censor the pro-bigot stuff too?

 

http://www.scouter.com/books/shop.php?k=get+off+my+honor&mode=Books

 

 

[SCOUTER-Terry]

I wouldn't read much into any merchandise that is inside the catalog. The entire catalog (while "open for business" and selling merchandise) is still experimental technology that's being refined over the coming weeks. SCOUTER Catalog used to be a very active vendor of a great selection of Scouting products, but that Catalog was closed a few years ago. The new online catalog is in conjunction with Amazon, and we have yet to do much (or ANY) specific merchandising and filtering of products that are available from Amazon through this site.

 

Without going into specific plans (in part because the plans are not even there yet), the new SCOUTER Catalog is still "finding its way", and completely automated in its merchandising of any product relating to Scouting.

 

 

TERRY HOWERTON

 

[NJCubScouter]

Actually Rooster, I think you find it incredible, because you are incredulous.

 

I personally am incredulous about two things,

 

First, that people would leap to the conclusions that fgoodwin and Rooster apparently leaped to, without at least asking Terry to first explain how the "store" works and how the products are selected. Especially when, having skimmed through some of the pages myself, the vast majority of the products are things that nobody could object to. Not that I have any idea why they are wasting bandwith offering the 1998 Requirements Book or the 1998 Wolf Cub Scout Book (equally out of date), though the price for each seems to be $0.01 (one cent), which is about what they are worth. (Actually if you use them as firewood they may be worth 2 cents.)

 

Second, I am incredulous that they think anyone would spend $5.95 for a single magazine article. I wouldn't spend that much for a whole magazine.

[Rooster7]

NJ,

 

I think you prove one thing with your post. There is no thought or opinion - regardless of subject matter, brevity, or indifference, which you are incapable of transforming into a personal attack. Congratulations. You must be proud.

 

[NJCubScouter]

Attack? I made a joke out of the fact that you used the wrong word? That's an attack? I thought it was "liberals" who took offense too easily.

[Prairie_Scouter]

Maybe Scouter-Terry should just get rid of anything that looks remotely like a view that's contrary to what some might consider the "ex cathedra" dictates of BSA and change the name of the website to "www.StepfordScouting.com".

 

Publications that describe views that oppose BSA policy are just information. They can be taken for what they're worth and possibly used to increase one's knowledge.

 

Is Scouter.com anti-BSA? C'mon. This isn't a matter of "friend or enemy". We should applaud Scouter-Terry for giving us easy access to this kind of information. The more we know, the better we are.

[Rooster7]

NJ,

 

First, that people would leap to the conclusions that fgoodwin and Rooster apparently leaped to, without at least asking Terry to first explain how the "store" works and how the products are selected.

 

I accept that I may have used the word (incredulous) improperly, but I find your reply to be unwarranted and manipulative. My post should not be construed as a slight against Terry or anyone associated with Scouter.com. I just find it difficult to believe that they would permit their site to be used to promote materials that are so blatantly offensive to the BSA organization and their supporters.

 

[Trevorum]

I much appreciate the absence of party line here. Even Merlyn's perspective, while monotonous, is welcome.

[SCOUTER-Terry]

stepfordscouting.com... that's funny. How long before that site shows up? :-)

 

TERRY HOWERTON

 

[OldGreyEagle]

You know, I've been told, by them who says they know, that in the Library of Congress there are a couple of copies of Mein Kampf as well as collected works of Karl Marx including Das Kapital and a work that Marx and Frederick Engels collaborated on called the Communist Manifesto as well as Chairman Mao's Little Red Book and the thought and works of Nikita Khrushchev

 

When an organization seeks to only allow one side of a story to be told and always, predictably, takes a certain tact or direction, in spite of facts, it runs a good chance of becomming mistaken as the Democratic/Republican Party (take your pick, I intended to insult them both)(This message has been edited by OldGreyEagle)

[johndaigler]

Moderators as book critics?? I'm definitely talking to Terry about that raise!!!

 

Though I have thought about censoring a piece or two of writing I've seen recently!

 

 

 

 

jd

[SR540Beaver]

In addition to the stepfordscouting.com site, there could be a DIYscouting.com site for all those who think they know how to do it better.

[Rooster7]

OGE,

 

I think your analogy fails. The library of Congress is just thata library. The Scouter gift shop should be unashamedly pro-scouting and they have no obligation, nor should they attempt, to show the other side. By your logic, "Mothers Against Pornography" should have a link to Playboy.

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